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Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 12:29 last edited by
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    https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/EHP6394
    Flaring from Unconventional Oil and Gas Development and Birth Outcomes in the Eagle Ford Shale in South Texas

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/22/climate/gas-flares-premature-babies.html

    Study Links Gas Flares to Preterm Births, With Hispanic Women at High Risk
    Expectant mothers who lived near flaring sites had [50%] higher odds of giving birth prematurely than those who did not, researchers found. The adverse outcomes fell entirely on Hispanic women.

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      Klaus
      wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 12:42 last edited by
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      Unless there's a reasonable scientific model that would explain such a causality, I'd say it's likely BS. You can't conclude much from such observational studies. There are a million possible confounding factors.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 12:44 last edited by
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        And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Loki
          wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 12:48 last edited by
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          Is this based on some paid for “dossier”?

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          • K Klaus
            3 Aug 2020, 12:42

            Unless there's a reasonable scientific model that would explain such a causality, I'd say it's likely BS. You can't conclude much from such observational studies. There are a million possible confounding factors.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 13:51 last edited by
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            Yes, “50% higher odds” seems statistically significant, and warrants further study to seek out the causes and remediation methods.

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            • C Catseye3
              3 Aug 2020, 12:44

              And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

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              Larry
              wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 14:33 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

              And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

              Jesus.

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              • L Larry
                3 Aug 2020, 14:33

                @Catseye3 said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

                And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

                Jesus.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 14:34 last edited by
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                @Larry said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

                Jesus.

                Meaning what?

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                • C Catseye3
                  3 Aug 2020, 12:44

                  And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 14:46 last edited by Larry 8 Mar 2020, 14:47
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                  @Catseye3 said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

                  And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

                  Imagine a town with 1,000 women in it. 800 are white, 150 are black, and 50 are hispanic. Every afternoon all 1,000 women walk to the grocery store to buy some ham so they can make sammiches for their man that day. On their way home all 50 of the Hispanic women's tits suddenly go flat. None of the 150 black women's tits go flat. None of the 800 white women's tits go flat. Only the Hispanic women's tits go flat.

                  That night on the news the reporter says "today, 50 women reported that their tits went flat. It seems the problem affected entirely Hispanic women." Gonzo is watching TV and hears this. He turns to his buddy Bubba, picks his nose, and says "unless all the women in town were Hispanic, how do they know it only affected Hispanic women?"

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                  • L Larry
                    3 Aug 2020, 14:46

                    @Catseye3 said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

                    And unless the population is composed entirely of Hispanic women, why would the results fall "entirely on Hispanic women"?

                    Imagine a town with 1,000 women in it. 800 are white, 150 are black, and 50 are hispanic. Every afternoon all 1,000 women walk to the grocery store to buy some ham so they can make sammiches for their man that day. On their way home all 50 of the Hispanic women's tits suddenly go flat. None of the 150 black women's tits go flat. None of the 800 white women's tits go flat. Only the Hispanic women's tits go flat.

                    That night on the news the reporter says "today, 50 women reported that their tits went flat. It seems the problem affected entirely Hispanic women." Gonzo is watching TV and hears this. He turns to his buddy Bubba, picks his nose, and says "unless all the women in town were Hispanic, how do they know it only affected Hispanic women?"

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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                    @Larry The abstract of the study makes no mention of ethnic breakdown. The last sentence reads, "Our findings need to be confirmed in other populations."

                    So your elaborately crafted little playlet -- which features tits, one of the few subjects that can be reliably counted upon to keep your attention indefinitely -- though meant to be a simplified analogy to the news story, fails.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 15:14 last edited by
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                      No, it doesnt fail. You apparently just arent intelligent enough to figure it out.

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                        Kincaid
                        wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 01:55 last edited by Kincaid 8 Apr 2020, 01:55
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                        @Axtremus said in Gas Flares Correlate to Pre-Term Births:

                        Flaring from Unconventional Oil and Gas Development

                        Oh, this is from OIL AND GAS development. When I first read the title, I thought it was stating the obvious.

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