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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbusiness/as-amazon-tells-staff-to-return-to-office-new-survey-says-hybrid-workers-aren-t-working/ar-AA1s6STz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=ef71f040b62c45248e848afef467144a&ei=10

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Really depends on the type of work. I'm in IT so working remotely (or remotely working amirite) works for the tasks that I need to get done and coordination with fellow IT nerds is no problem. It's been this way for 4 years since most of the team went remote. And the flexibility it allows in my life with 3 young kids is nearly priceless.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        I work remote. Most of the crap I do is in Figma. It used to be, my managers would be able to use Asana, Trello or some other project management software to keep tabs on productivity. Now, we're all working on the same shit together in real time. There's no such thing as "not working," it's not even possible.

        Please love yourself.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Really depends on the type of work. I'm in IT so working remotely (or remotely working amirite) works for the tasks that I need to get done and coordination with fellow IT nerds is no problem. It's been this way for 4 years since most of the team went remote. And the flexibility it allows in my life with 3 young kids is nearly priceless.

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          NobodySock
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          @89th Me2!!! I just turned 40 years federal service September and I could have retired fully a couple years ago now. But why? Life working at home is the sweetest cake I have ever eaten. I may go to 70 if I don't retire to Italy first.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #5

            Let's just say that morale has not improved since we completely abandoned the idea of a hybrid work pattern that we were on the verge of adopting in late 2019.

            I was only joking

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              Again, Federal Employees should absolutely be required to work in offices clearly labeled and publicly accessible with adequate cybersecurity and networks. Computers, mobile devices, etc that are used for work should be secured and remain on premises. Allowing Federal employees to work at home violates the transparency and accountability that is demanded of public servants.

              The Brad

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                adequate cybersecurity and networks

                LOL. Good luck with that.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  I wouldn't have a problem with cutting the Federal workforce back to the levels of when Obama left office.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                    adequate cybersecurity and networks

                    LOL. Good luck with that.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                    Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                    Personally, I wouldn’t mind if their jobs were made to be such a pain in the ass that 1/3 quit and rather than be replaced, we restructured the entire thing. But since that won’t happen, I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                      Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                      Personally, I wouldn’t mind if their jobs were made to be such a pain in the ass that 1/3 quit and rather than be replaced, we restructured the entire thing. But since that won’t happen, I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                      Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                      Personally, I wouldn’t mind if their jobs were made to be such a pain in the ass that 1/3 quit and rather than be replaced, we restructured the entire thing. But since that won’t happen, I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                      The Federal civilian workforce has grown 7% under Biden. I think we could cut 10% and not miss a beat.

                      I also think we have too many contractors working for the military. I know it may cost a little money, but I'd like to see the military go back to the days when it used all military personnel for food services, etc. And... I'd like to institute the Marines' rifleman requirements in all services. ALL personnel from company commander on down, should have to qualify with small arms each year.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                        Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                        Personally, I wouldn’t mind if their jobs were made to be such a pain in the ass that 1/3 quit and rather than be replaced, we restructured the entire thing. But since that won’t happen, I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                        The Federal civilian workforce has grown 7% under Biden. I think we could cut 10% and not miss a beat.

                        I also think we have too many contractors working for the military. I know it may cost a little money, but I'd like to see the military go back to the days when it used all military personnel for food services, etc. And... I'd like to institute the Marines' rifleman requirements in all services. ALL personnel from company commander on down, should have to qualify with small arms each year.

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                        89th
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                        @Jolly

                        Cut 10%? I could see it 30% and I’m in the industry at risk!

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                          Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                          Personally, I wouldn’t mind if their jobs were made to be such a pain in the ass that 1/3 quit and rather than be replaced, we restructured the entire thing. But since that won’t happen, I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                          Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                          I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                          All very laudable, as is my wish for an end to world hunger.

                          In my experience, there's government, and there's government. I've never worked for either, but there are some areas I've worked with in the field of industrial safety who appear woefully underfunded. Like most very large organizations, the bureaucracy soaks up a lot, and you're left with much fewer people doing the actual work.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                            Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                            I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                            All very laudable, as is my wish for an end to world hunger.

                            In my experience, there's government, and there's government. I've never worked for either, but there are some areas I've worked with in the field of industrial safety who appear woefully underfunded. Like most very large organizations, the bureaucracy soaks up a lot, and you're left with much fewer people doing the actual work.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                            Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                            I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                            All very laudable, as is my wish for an end to world hunger.

                            In my experience, there's government, and there's government. I've never worked for either, but there are some areas I've worked with in the field of industrial safety who appear woefully underfunded. Like most very large organizations, the bureaucracy soaks up a lot, and you're left with much fewer people doing the actual work.

                            That's because if you want more money in government, you need the title and X number of TO's under you. So there is a very strong push to "create" managerial slots that aren't really required. You shuffle papers, attend meetings and do intense planning before lunch or after your nap.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                              Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with government employees being allowed a hybrid work environment.

                              I will be satisfied with their work being conducted in a secure but transparent Government facility with full accountability to the public.

                              All very laudable, as is my wish for an end to world hunger.

                              In my experience, there's government, and there's government. I've never worked for either, but there are some areas I've worked with in the field of industrial safety who appear woefully underfunded. Like most very large organizations, the bureaucracy soaks up a lot, and you're left with much fewer people doing the actual work.

                              That's because if you want more money in government, you need the title and X number of TO's under you. So there is a very strong push to "create" managerial slots that aren't really required. You shuffle papers, attend meetings and do intense planning before lunch or after your nap.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #14

                              @Jolly said in On site > Hybrid > Remote:

                              That's because if you want more money in government, you need the title and X number of TO's under you. So there is a very strong push to "create" managerial slots that aren't really required. You shuffle papers, attend meetings and do intense planning before lunch or after your nap.

                              Hey, I resent that.

                              I can't post more now, I've got a planning meeting.

                              I was only joking

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