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    Jolly
    wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 18:53 last edited by
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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/general-milley-ignored-trump-order-deploy-nat-guard/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 21:53 last edited by
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      So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

      Is this coming into focus, yet?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        22 Sept 2024, 21:53

        So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

        Is this coming into focus, yet?

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 22:00 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

        So... Trump asked for the troops.

        Why, because of tourists taking selfies?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 22:02 last edited by
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          You read the transcript?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Mik
            wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 22:46 last edited by
            #5

            Interesting. It’s telling that Milley won’t answer the questions.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 00:22 last edited by
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              I would like to see the full transcript. Both sides have an agenda. Releasing select quotes just reinforces that.

              It is possible that President Trump sent a follow up message: "No, I thought about it. No need for any troops. It is going to be a peaceful gathering by US patriots.

              (Not saying this happened, but we always talk on this board about how things are taken out of context by "selective editing" or quoting.)

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              • J Jolly
                22 Sept 2024, 21:53

                So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

                Is this coming into focus, yet?

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                George K
                wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 00:49 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

                So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

                Is this coming into focus, yet?

                Who has authority to call for the National Guard?

                Does POTUS? Speaker of the House? Mayor of DC? Sec Def?

                IF POTUS has authority, does Speaker have the veto?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  23 Sept 2024, 00:49

                  @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

                  So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

                  Is this coming into focus, yet?

                  Who has authority to call for the National Guard?

                  Does POTUS? Speaker of the House? Mayor of DC? Sec Def?

                  IF POTUS has authority, does Speaker have the veto?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 02:47 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                  @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

                  So... Trump asked for the troops. Pelosi refused to ask for them.

                  Is this coming into focus, yet?

                  Who has authority to call for the National Guard?

                  Does POTUS? Speaker of the House? Mayor of DC? Sec Def?

                  IF POTUS has authority, does Speaker have the veto?

                  The Speaker has the authority.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
                    wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 11:26 last edited by
                    #9

                    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/13/social-media/fact-checking-claim-pelosi-takes-responsibility-fo/

                    No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, Defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      23 Sept 2024, 11:26

                      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/13/social-media/fact-checking-claim-pelosi-takes-responsibility-fo/

                      No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, Defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 11:27 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/13/social-media/fact-checking-claim-pelosi-takes-responsibility-fo/

                      No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, Defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do.

                      I stand corrected.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 11:56 last edited by
                        #11

                        If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

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                        • A Axtremus
                          23 Sept 2024, 11:56

                          If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

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                          George K
                          wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 12:04 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in No National Guard For You!:

                          If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

                          If you believe some of the "tell-all" books that came out (Deborah Birx's book comes to mind) there was a concerted effort to undermine what he wanted to do.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            23 Sept 2024, 11:56

                            If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 12:06 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Axtremus said in No National Guard For You!:

                            If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

                            Only you could read all this and come up with that question. 😄

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • G George K
                              23 Sept 2024, 12:04

                              @Axtremus said in No National Guard For You!:

                              If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

                              If you believe some of the "tell-all" books that came out (Deborah Birx's book comes to mind) there was a concerted effort to undermine what he wanted to do.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 12:10 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                              @Axtremus said in No National Guard For You!:

                              If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

                              If you believe some of the "tell-all" books that came out (Deborah Birx's book comes to mind) there was a concerted effort to undermine what he wanted to do.

                              Swampy, isn't it?

                              Secondly, in view of this transcript, what does it say about the second impeachment?

                              With history, we now know the first was absolute political BS. Now, it's increasingly looking like the second was pure political BS.

                              I know we have a country filled with LIV's, but whatever your politics may be, citizens should be apoplectic with Congress being used this way.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                23 Sept 2024, 12:10

                                @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                                @Axtremus said in No National Guard For You!:

                                If Trump said "deploy the troops" and the troops ain't deployed, what does that say about Trump's effectiveness as commander-in-chief?

                                If you believe some of the "tell-all" books that came out (Deborah Birx's book comes to mind) there was a concerted effort to undermine what he wanted to do.

                                Swampy, isn't it?

                                Secondly, in view of this transcript, what does it say about the second impeachment?

                                With history, we now know the first was absolute political BS. Now, it's increasingly looking like the second was pure political BS.

                                I know we have a country filled with LIV's, but whatever your politics may be, citizens should be apoplectic with Congress being used this way.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 12:13 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

                                the first was absolute political BS

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                                Son of a bitch!

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • J Jolly
                                  23 Sept 2024, 11:27

                                  @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                                  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/13/social-media/fact-checking-claim-pelosi-takes-responsibility-fo/

                                  No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, Defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do.

                                  I stand corrected.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 12:47 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in No National Guard For You!:

                                  @George-K said in No National Guard For You!:

                                  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/13/social-media/fact-checking-claim-pelosi-takes-responsibility-fo/

                                  No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, Defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do.

                                  I stand corrected.

                                  Not to kick a man when he’s down, but I’ll bet you were sitting corrected.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 13:49 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    I'm dropping seven trees today. I'm only sitting when sharing wisdom with y'all.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 14:13 last edited by
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                                      I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here today.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 23 Sept 2024, 19:51 last edited by
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                                        Not the TDS sufferers...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          23 Sept 2024, 00:22

                                          I would like to see the full transcript. Both sides have an agenda. Releasing select quotes just reinforces that.

                                          It is possible that President Trump sent a follow up message: "No, I thought about it. No need for any troops. It is going to be a peaceful gathering by US patriots.

                                          (Not saying this happened, but we always talk on this board about how things are taken out of context by "selective editing" or quoting.)

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 26 Sept 2024, 12:49 last edited by George K
                                          #20

                                          @taiwan_girl said in No National Guard For You!:

                                          I would like to see the full transcript.

                                          https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2024-09/26 - Milley - 4.8.21.pdf

                                          These might also be interesting.

                                          https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2024-09/25 - Miller - 3.12.21.pdf

                                          https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2024-09/2 - Contee - 3.17.21.pdf

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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