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    89th
    wrote on 26 Aug 2024, 01:12 last edited by 89th
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    I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 26 Aug 2024, 01:27 last edited by
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      Dumb, but sincere.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 8 89th
        26 Aug 2024, 01:12

        I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

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        Horace
        wrote on 26 Aug 2024, 16:02 last edited by
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        @89th said in Republicans for Harris:

        I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

        There is a very easy path from self-interest or social pressures or political/social/economic advantage, to genuine sincerity. In fact, not taking that path requires a great deal of reflection and intention. Humans are wired to take that path. Sincerity when it comes to politics actually means very little. The easiest person to fool is oneself, as the saying goes. Every true believer in every idiotic idea in the history of the universe has been sincere.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          26 Aug 2024, 16:02

          @89th said in Republicans for Harris:

          I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

          There is a very easy path from self-interest or social pressures or political/social/economic advantage, to genuine sincerity. In fact, not taking that path requires a great deal of reflection and intention. Humans are wired to take that path. Sincerity when it comes to politics actually means very little. The easiest person to fool is oneself, as the saying goes. Every true believer in every idiotic idea in the history of the universe has been sincere.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 01:20 last edited by Renauda
          #26

          @Horace

          I honestly like your cynicism. I only wish mine were half as sincere.

          Elbows up!

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 03:49 last edited by
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            https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25071901-bush-mccain-and-romney-alumni-for-harris-statement

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/26/republicans-endorse-harris-bush-romney-mccain/

            More than 200 Republicans who worked for President George W. Bush, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) or the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) have endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, warning in a letter that a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.”

            The open letter with the endorsement was first published Monday in USA Today, with 238 signatures.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 04:19 last edited by
              #28

              So, the neocons who didn't vote for Trump last time are not voting for him this time...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                89th
                wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:06 last edited by
                #29

                You'd think that would tell the MAGA-cons something. Or in the case if Trump goes to prison... a future ex-con. 😄

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                • H Horace
                  26 Aug 2024, 16:02

                  @89th said in Republicans for Harris:

                  I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

                  There is a very easy path from self-interest or social pressures or political/social/economic advantage, to genuine sincerity. In fact, not taking that path requires a great deal of reflection and intention. Humans are wired to take that path. Sincerity when it comes to politics actually means very little. The easiest person to fool is oneself, as the saying goes. Every true believer in every idiotic idea in the history of the universe has been sincere.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:11 last edited by
                  #30

                  @Horace said in Republicans for Harris:

                  @89th said in Republicans for Harris:

                  I’m friends with one of those folks listed above btw. They are very sincere.

                  There is a very easy path from self-interest or social pressures or political/social/economic advantage, to genuine sincerity. In fact, not taking that path requires a great deal of reflection and intention. Humans are wired to take that path. Sincerity when it comes to politics actually means very little. The easiest person to fool is oneself, as the saying goes. Every true believer in every idiotic idea in the history of the universe has been sincere.

                  In my 40 or so years living near DC and knowing the folks that work for the government, there are broad categories of what motivates people. Certainly you have those who want power (control), those who want money (lobbyists), those who want the partisan competition (it is fun, no?), those who just want a steady income and to keep their heads down, those who follow a powerful person around, and those who are idealists who study and work hard to improve and serve the country regardless of the power, money, or politics behind it. And you can imagine how each group reacted as January 6th unfolded.

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                  • 8 89th
                    27 Aug 2024, 12:06

                    You'd think that would tell the MAGA-cons something. Or in the case if Trump goes to prison... a future ex-con. 😄

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:40 last edited by
                    #31

                    @89th said in Republicans for Harris:

                    You'd think that would tell the MAGA-cons something. Or in the case if Trump goes to prison... a future ex-con. 😄

                    Send him to prison.

                    Please.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 11:11 last edited by
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                      Liz Cheney announced support for Harris:

                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/33546/harris-gets-a-new-supporter

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 11:12 last edited by
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                        Jimmy McCain to vote Democratic:

                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/03/mccain-trump-arlington-democrat

                        (But Meghan McCain to vote neither.)

                        George KG 2 Replies Last reply 5 Sept 2024, 18:11
                        • A Axtremus
                          5 Sept 2024, 11:12

                          Jimmy McCain to vote Democratic:

                          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/03/mccain-trump-arlington-democrat

                          (But Meghan McCain to vote neither.)

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                          George K
                          wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 18:11 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Republicans for Harris:

                          Jimmy McCain to vote Democratic:

                          This is the Jimmy McCain who shot a campaign ad for his father at Arlington cemetery, right?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            A Former User
                            wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 18:19 last edited by A Former User 9 May 2024, 18:35
                            #35

                            Actually, I think it was John McCain. Unless you're talking about a different incident involving Jimmy.

                            In 1999, McCain too faced backlash from the Army and the public for his Arlington ad. He admitted he erred and removed the two seconds of footage from the ad.

                            The Army had previously released a statement saying McCain had not asked permission to film at the cemetery and that any request to do so would have been denied because partisan activity is banned at Army installations.

                            Trump, meanwhile, has doubled down, insisting in a Tuesday Truth Social post that "there was no conflict" at the cemetery and that "it was a made-up story by Comrade Kamala and her misinformation squad," despite his own campaign spokespeople discussing the situation with Newsweek last week.

                            He has also rebuked the criticism that he should not have taken photographs, saying that he did so because the families asked him to.

                            Trump's campaign later accused the staff member of being a "despicable individual" who was having a "suffering from a mental health episode," leading to the U.S. Army publicly rebuking Trump's campaign and defending its staff member.

                            In 1999, Jimmy would have been 11.

                            https://www.newsweek.com/maga-calls-john-mccain-son-hypocrite-after-arlington-video-resurfaces-1948431

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 18:19 last edited by
                              #36

                              If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                              We can't all embrace the art of Christian forgiveness as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                              I was only joking

                              jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply 5 Sept 2024, 18:44
                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                5 Sept 2024, 18:19

                                If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                We can't all embrace the art of Christian forgiveness as well as Ted Cruz has done.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 18:44 last edited by
                                #37

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Republicans for Harris:

                                If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                We can't all embrace the art of being a cuck as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                                FIFY.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                Doctor PhibesD J 2 Replies Last reply 5 Sept 2024, 21:44
                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                  5 Sept 2024, 18:44

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Republicans for Harris:

                                  If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                  We can't all embrace the art of being a cuck as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                                  FIFY.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 21:44 last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @jon-nyc said in Republicans for Harris:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Republicans for Harris:

                                  If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                  We can't all embrace the art of being a cuck as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                                  FIFY.

                                  Apparently on his last potholing expedition he found Sean Hannity's Rolex.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                    5 Sept 2024, 18:44

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Republicans for Harris:

                                    If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                    We can't all embrace the art of being a cuck as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                                    FIFY.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 21:49 last edited by
                                    #39

                                    @jon-nyc said in Republicans for Harris:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Republicans for Harris:

                                    If Trump spoke about my father the way he did about McCain, I'd have a hard time voting for him, too.

                                    We can't all embrace the art of being a cuck as well as Ted Cruz has done.

                                    FIFY.

                                    Rent free

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 21:52 last edited by
                                      #40

                                      Sorry, Ted Cruz has to pay rent. Actually his wife pays it.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                      George KG 1 Reply Last reply 5 Sept 2024, 22:01
                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                        5 Sept 2024, 21:52

                                        Sorry, Ted Cruz has to pay rent. Actually his wife pays it.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 22:01 last edited by
                                        #41

                                        @jon-nyc said in Republicans for Harris:

                                        Sorry, Ted Cruz has to pay rent. Actually his wife pays it.

                                        In Heinz-sight, @jolly's just Kerry-ing water for Cruz.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        J 1 Reply Last reply 5 Sept 2024, 22:02
                                        • George KG George K
                                          5 Sept 2024, 22:01

                                          @jon-nyc said in Republicans for Harris:

                                          Sorry, Ted Cruz has to pay rent. Actually his wife pays it.

                                          In Heinz-sight, @jolly's just Kerry-ing water for Cruz.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 22:02 last edited by
                                          #42

                                          @George-K said in Republicans for Harris:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Republicans for Harris:

                                          Sorry, Ted Cruz has to pay rent. Actually his wife pays it.

                                          In Heinz-sight, @jolly's just Kerry-ing water for Cruz.

                                          That's punny...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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