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Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #32

    He's discovered that different political tribes will use motivated reasoning to reach different conclusions. What a genius. I'm happy for him that he was able to dunk on this point of Cooper's. If we only had more twitter midwits dunking on more fascists, the world would be a better place, with better, more truthy information.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @Renauda said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      I believe it ridiculous and absurd to frame or link Churchill’s policy of no negotiation with the Nazi regime to the Holocaust and the war in Europe. No evidence for such even exists.

      Cooper admits in the discussion that he is being hyperbolic and trollish in calling Churchill the primary villain of WW2. I think the attempt to make the point is ill-advised, if his intention is to be taken seriously.

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      #33

      @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      @Renauda said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      I believe it ridiculous and absurd to frame or link Churchill’s policy of no negotiation with the Nazi regime to the Holocaust and the war in Europe. No evidence for such even exists.

      Cooper admits in the discussion that he is being hyperbolic and trollish in calling Churchill the primary villain of WW2. I think the attempt to make the point is ill-advised, if his intention is to be taken seriously.

      Yes I recall that rather lame attempt to put a caveat on whatever point he was trying to make about Churchill. Not to worry, I was unable to take his tortured and ill advised hypothesis regarding WWII the least bit seriously.

      Elbows up!

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #34

        First rule of being a troll: Don't talk about being a troll.

        I was only joking

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        • Tom-KT Offline
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          Tom-K
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          #35

          Jeez guys, Darryl Cooper is a piece of carp from Hell and it seems Tucker is his beloved brother posting this ship.

          I really used to like Tucker.

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          • Tom-KT Tom-K

            Jeez guys, Darryl Cooper is a piece of carp from Hell and it seems Tucker is his beloved brother posting this ship.

            I really used to like Tucker.

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            George K
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            #36

            @Tom-K said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

            I really used to like Tucker.

            Stephen Green (Vodkapundit)

            Cooper is either a loon or a fraud. Carlson said he's "the best and most honest popular historian in the United States." Is following a trail already well-trod by Candace Owens really where Tucker Carlson wants to go?

            "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action," Ian Fleming wrote in "Goldfinger."

            One fawning interview with a rabid antisemite like Munther Isaac is happenstance. A second fawning interview with a Hitler apologist like Darryl Cooper is coincidence. Will Carlson go for three and force us to conclude he's conducting an enemy action??

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #37

              Elon deleted his endorsment.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • Tom-KT Tom-K

                Jeez guys, Darryl Cooper is a piece of carp from Hell and it seems Tucker is his beloved brother posting this ship.

                I really used to like Tucker.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #38

                @Tom-K said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

                I really used to like Tucker.

                That means you liked his writers when he was on Fox. He is substantially different now, and less relatable. I still like most of his stuff directionally, but he can get ridiculous.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #39

                  Cooper's wikipedia page seems to have been created just today. I am not too sure he was on anybody's radar before the Tucker interview.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #40

                    Didn’t he hire some of his writers? Then again they probably had non-competes too without the $ to fight fox.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #41

                      Cooper explains himself in detail here on why Churchill was the chief villain of WWII, Community Notes is having none of it.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Horace
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                        #42

                        Cooper did an Ask Me Anything on his site in 2022, long before he went viral. He had been doing historical podcasts for several years and had some fans. Interestingly lots of left-leaning people, who were surprised to learn his politics leaned right. From this I glean that his politics are not obvious from the content he's put out before the Tucker interview. All of these hot takes about him being a Nazi or Fascist are based on what he said in the Tucker piece.

                        https://web.archive.org/web/20240904021417/https://subscribe.martyrmade.com/p/ask-me-anything-728-81/comments

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Cooper explains himself in detail here on why Churchill was the chief villain of WWII, Community Notes is having none of it.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #43

                          @jon-nyc said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

                          Cooper explains himself in detail here on why Churchill was the chief villain of WWII, Community Notes is having none of it.

                          Seems like more of a discussion than a dunk-fest. An at times nit-picky discussion at that.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            Cooper's wikipedia page seems to have been created just today. I am not too sure he was on anybody's radar before the Tucker interview.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

                            Cooper's wikipedia page seems to have been created just today. I am not too sure he was on anybody's radar before the Tucker interview.

                            I looked yesterday as I had no idea who he was, and there was no Wiki page.

                            I guess his 15 minutes starts now.

                            I was only joking

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                              Renauda
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                              #45

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              I looked yesterday as well with the same result. Nada.

                              That FuCa….cutting 21st century internet titans from whole cloth.

                              The man is a social media wizard!

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                I looked yesterday as well with the same result. Nada.

                                That FuCa….cutting 21st century internet titans from whole cloth.

                                The man is a social media wizard!

                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #46

                                @Renauda said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                That FuCa….cutting 21st century internet titans from whole cloth.

                                The man is a social media wizard!

                                Social necromancy perhaps

                                I was only joking

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #47

                                  😂

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #48

                                    I nearly said necrophilia

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #49

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        VDH weighs in

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #51

                                          They keep referring to him as a historian. He appears to be just some guy in the internet.

                                          I was only joking

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