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  • George KG George K

    @jon-nyc said in Trump Lies:

    Quadrupling the money supply was the major driver.

    Am I missing something? M2 is the money supply, right?

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    @George-K said in Trump Lies:

    @jon-nyc said in Trump Lies:

    Quadrupling the money supply was the major driver.

    Am I missing something? M2 is the money supply, right?

    Screenshot 2024-08-12 at 11.39.42 AM.png

    M1 is the actual amount of money in circulation. Cash/Coins/Checking Accounts/Actual spendable money.

    M2 is M1 Plus timed deposits. Money Market Accounts, CD, etc...

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    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Lies:

      Her signature legislation (not passed) was to give every single person $2,000 per month during COVID. You saw what the $600 per person on 3 payments did to inflation, imagine $2,000 per month…

      Meh. Quadrupling the money supply was the major driver. Only a small portion of that was paid out as covid stimulus. The vast majority was injected into the banking system, where it reared its head as inflation exactly 18 months later, just as the good professor Friedman told us it would some 70 years ago.

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      @jon-nyc said in Trump Lies:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Lies:

      Her signature legislation (not passed) was to give every single person $2,000 per month during COVID. You saw what the $600 per person on 3 payments did to inflation, imagine $2,000 per month…

      Meh. Quadrupling the money supply was the major driver. Only a small portion of that was paid out as covid stimulus. The vast majority was injected into the banking system, where it reared its head as inflation exactly 18 months later, just as the good professor Friedman told us it would some 70 years ago.

      And why was it injected into the M1?

      The Brad

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        Trump’s chosen Fed chair got spooked by Covid?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • George KG George K

          @89th said in Trump Lies:

          Trump's lying (substantially more than usual compared to his fellow swamp politicians) is one reason I have been unable to vote for him since 2016

          So, in terms of lying, we're arguing about price, amirite? I find Walz's lying about something much more substantial disqualifying.

          adultery

          Harris.

          if it was Trump vs a threat to America (like Sanders on steroids), I'd vote for Trump,

          Remember, Harris was found, as a senator, to be to the left of Bernie.

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          @George-K said in Trump Lies:

          So, in terms of lying, we're arguing about price, amirite? I find Walz's lying about something much more substantial disqualifying.

          Trump lied about his former support for the Iraq war. Seems pretty substantial to me.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Yeah, and you told your first girlfriend you'd love her forever, if she just did one thing for you...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @89th said in Trump Lies:

              Trump's lying (substantially more than usual compared to his fellow swamp politicians) is one reason I have been unable to vote for him since 2016

              So, in terms of lying, we're arguing about price, amirite? I find Walz's lying about something much more substantial disqualifying.

              adultery

              Harris.

              if it was Trump vs a threat to America (like Sanders on steroids), I'd vote for Trump,

              Remember, Harris was found, as a senator, to be to the left of Bernie.

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              @George-K said in Trump Lies:

              @89th said in Trump Lies:

              Trump's lying (substantially more than usual compared to his fellow swamp politicians) is one reason I have been unable to vote for him since 2016

              So, in terms of lying, we're arguing about price, amirite? I find Walz's lying about something much more substantial disqualifying.

              With all due respect, I think you've just become used to how Trump speaks over the last 8 years... the number of falsehoods, made-up facts, "many people have told me" excuses, and exaggerations is almost impossible to keep track of.

              Actually someone did keep track.

              30,573 false or misleading claims between 2017 and 2021.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

              I know.. WaPo, but the full database is open, you can download the CSV file, it's about as auditable as you can get. Heck, let's start at the very beginning about his inauguration crowd size being bigger than Obama's.

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                1. I'm supposed to believe that?
                2. What kind of obsessive jerk even has the time to do something like that?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  So, you believe the 2020 election was stolen based on unanimously rejected claims, but when there's a completely transparent and auditable trail of false or misleading claims by Trump, you don't believe it.

                  I've said it a billion times. I'm a conservative, as you are. Imagine how you'd react if it was Obama instead of Trump and the coronavirus fumbles, election denial, January 6th, and database of false claims. I'd be reacting the same, would you?

                  Ok, I lied. I haven't said it a billion times, maybe a few dozen.

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                    I was only joking

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      So, you believe the 2020 election was stolen based on unanimously rejected claims, but when there's a completely transparent and auditable trail of false or misleading claims by Trump, you don't believe it.

                      I've said it a billion times. I'm a conservative, as you are. Imagine how you'd react if it was Obama instead of Trump and the coronavirus fumbles, election denial, January 6th, and database of false claims. I'd be reacting the same, would you?

                      Ok, I lied. I haven't said it a billion times, maybe a few dozen.

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                      @89th said in Trump Lies:

                      So, you believe the 2020 election was stolen based on unanimously rejected claims, but when there's a completely transparent and auditable trail of false or misleading claims by Trump, you don't believe it.

                      I've said it a billion times. I'm a conservative, as you are. Imagine how you'd react if it was Obama instead of Trump and the coronavirus fumbles, election denial, January 6th, and database of false claims. I'd be reacting the same, would you?

                      Ok, I lied. I haven't said it a billion times, maybe a few dozen.

                      No, I believe the election was stolen based on personal experience with stolen elections. The 2020 election had multiple warning signs that screamed ballot finagling.

                      I also think - and this is readily apparent - the kid glove treatment of Basement Biden and the Dems changing rules to facilitate massive mail-in voting (and ballot harvesting) - is also tantamount to stealing an election.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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