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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    How is that a criticism? More like mad props.

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    Jolly
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    @jon-nyc said in Secret Service under fire:

    How is that a criticism? More like mad props.

    I dunno. I used to be pretty quick with a stick-shift rifle. I know I could shoot a slick bolt as faster than Oswald was purported to do. But Oswald wasn't shooting a slick bolt. The Carcano can be a little clunky. And the bolt is Mannlicher style and in the wrong place.

    Link to video

    Ideally, you'd like the bolt knob to be above the trigger, like a K98 or a 1903 Springfield. When you shoot, you rack the bolt with your palm, pull back and then rack it forward with the web of your hand and as your cartridge loads and you drop the bolt down, your index finger naturally drops to the trigger.

    While the Carcano might have been fast enough to make the JFK shots, I've always wondered about the scope. It's horrendous. 18mm, which means crappy light transmission and the crosshairs in those scopes could get knocked off real easy.

    So who knows? Maybe Oswald had a "good day".

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
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      image.jpeg image.jpeg

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #103

        Well, ain't that sumthin'...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          #104

          PREPARE FOR…….crickets

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #105

            Scalise is whacking Mayorkas on TV right now. The Secret Service is short 1000 people. Some current agents do not have full security clearance. Training was only 30 minutes last year.

            In his words, " The only thing they're competent at, is incompetence".

            Furthermore, the training and recruitment problems have been known for years and have not been addressed.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #106

              @Jolly Interesting. I did not realize that they were short so many people.

              How do you fix it?

              For those that are on security, it is a tough job I would think. Significant travel and being away for "long"periods, etc.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly Interesting. I did not realize that they were short so many people.

                How do you fix it?

                For those that are on security, it is a tough job I would think. Significant travel and being away for "long"periods, etc.

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                @taiwan_girl said in Secret Service under fire:

                @Jolly Interesting. I did not realize that they were short so many people.

                How do you fix it?

                For those that are on security, it is a tough job I would think. Significant travel and being away for "long"periods, etc.

                One of the biggest complaints of the protection agents is they cannot have a life apart from the job.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #108

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/us/politics/secret-service-trump-assassination-attempt.html

                  (copied from a blog...)

                  Here are just a few inexplicable things he revealed:

                  • the Secret Service had no radio communications not only with the local police but also with the snipers
                  • most of the vital communications were made using texts over an overloaded cell phone network
                  • There are no recordings of the Secret Service communications, although there are of the locals
                  • Rowe's assertions about the responsibilities of the local snipers didn't actually come from the local snipers--it was just made up by the Secret Service (we would know much less were it not for the locals)
                  • the Secret Service command center was not co-located with the local police
                  • The investigators have YET to talk to the local police who were assisting the SS, including the snipers (after three weeks!)
                  • Butler was the VERY FIRST TIME that the Secret Service provided snipers for a Trump rally this election cycle

                  They communicated via text.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
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                    #109

                    Saw that last one this weekend. It's almost like they wanted Trump killed.

                    Nah...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      taiwan_girl
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                      #110

                      @George-K I thought after Sept 11, one of the things that was indicated as a major problem was lack of communications among different organizations. Obvlisouly, they have not solved things. 🙄

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Saw that last one this weekend. It's almost like they wanted Trump killed.

                        Nah...

                        89th8 Offline
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                        @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                        Saw that last one this weekend. It's almost like they wanted Trump killed.

                        Nah...

                        I’m telling you, protection at these types of events aren’t as tight as you’d think, especially outside of the security zone.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                          Saw that last one this weekend. It's almost like they wanted Trump killed.

                          Nah...

                          I’m telling you, protection at these types of events aren’t as tight as you’d think, especially outside of the security zone.

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                          @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                          Saw that last one this weekend. It's almost like they wanted Trump killed.

                          Nah...

                          I’m telling you, protection at these types of events aren’t as tight as you’d think, especially outside of the security zone.

                          Lad, 150 yards in the prone position with a rifle is rock-throwing distance. I'd call that within the perimeter.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            89th
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                            Agreed, it should’ve been.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #114

                              This is not a good look...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                Why are they typing sh**t*ng or things like @ss@ssinate. Why aren’t they typing it out?

                                The Brad

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                                  Some find the word sh@@ting offensive

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    #117

                                    To avoid suppression algorithms

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      To avoid suppression algorithms

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                                      #118

                                      @Mik said in Secret Service under fire:

                                      To avoid suppression algorithms

                                      Exactly. Certain words like m-rder, r-pe, etc trigger the algorithm and it gets blocked/demonitized.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
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                                        #119

                                        Can the Secret Service get ANY worse?

                                        Why, yes, of course. It can.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          DEI hire.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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