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Now I feel like crap....

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  • MikM Offline
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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Now I feel like crap....:

      @Mik said in Now I feel like crap....:

      A man's gotta do wht he's gotta do. That's what you had to do. Don't let the guilt make you try to make it up to him. he needs to be productive.

      It's not clear to me his behavior is contrary to that.

      The discussion wasn't actually about his chatting and wandering, it was about his productivity.

      The office is still as silent as the grave.

      I'm wondering whether I'll get the sick day call-in tomorrow.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Now I feel like crap....:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Now I feel like crap....:

      @Mik said in Now I feel like crap....:

      A man's gotta do wht he's gotta do. That's what you had to do. Don't let the guilt make you try to make it up to him. he needs to be productive.

      It's not clear to me his behavior is contrary to that.

      The discussion wasn't actually about his chatting and wandering, it was about his productivity.

      Well, that's legit.

      The office is still as silent as the grave.

      I'm wondering whether I'll get the sick day call-in tomorrow.

      I'm sure everything might be fine.

      Seriously, though, I think Mik's right. You're management, he's labor. Ain't no way to reconcile that so might as well just try to be cool, do what you have to do and don't worry about whatever he thinks.

      Please love yourself.

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        Pretend you have just developed Tourette's - "you suck!!" "move it, a...hole"

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          I’m sure it was clear that you didn’t want to have to deliver that message. A relaxed environment only works until folks take it a bit too far.

          It might be a little awkward for a few days, but it’s good for people to know where the line is.

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          • kluursK kluurs

            Pretend you have just developed Tourette's - "you suck!!" "move it, a...hole"

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            @kluurs I don’t think it’s transitory like that. 😄

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Obviously I’ve done this stuff before, but the guy in question tends to take things very personally. He more than had it coming, but I still don’t enjoy it.

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                I bet. It’s one of my least favorite aspects of management. I’d rather to be the guy getting the dressing down. Then I can pull out belligerent and see if I can back the guy down.

                It’s been many years since I gave a flying fuck about getting fired. 😄

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Obviously I’ve done this stuff before, but the guy in question tends to take things very personally. He more than had it coming, but I still don’t enjoy it.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Now I feel like crap....:

                  Obviously I’ve done this stuff before, but the guy in question tends to take things very personally. He more than had it coming, but I still don’t enjoy it.

                  Want a friend?

                  Buy a dog.

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                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    If he wasn’t quieter, then I would be worried he didn’t fake it seriously. Not that the chatting was the issue, but the guy should be more introspective given the circumstances.

                    The Brad

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                      In all seriousness, let me give you a piece of advice...

                      It's not the people you fire that keep you up at night. It's the ones you should have fired and didn't.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Sorry you’re going through this. Hopefully it’ll blow over.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          If it’s any consolation, he’s having a worse day…

                          The Brad

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                            It's no biggie, I was just venting. I'm sure most of us have been through a lot worse on a regular occasion.

                            Something else he hasn't figured out is that he shouldn't confide in the guy I go for my lunchtime walk with pretty much every day 😁

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              It's no biggie, I was just venting. I'm sure most of us have been through a lot worse on a regular occasion.

                              Something else he hasn't figured out is that he shouldn't confide in the guy I go for my lunchtime walk with pretty much every day 😁

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                                Sorry, dupe - I keep hitting the 'reply' button instead of 'edit'.

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                                  If you can/care, can you share the reasons for dismissal?

                                  When our group shrank, we had to let 3 guys go at once. I wasn't there for the talk.

                                  However, when we had to fire one for performance issues, I was there (and voted). It was rough, indeed.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    If you can/care, can you share the reasons for dismissal?

                                    When our group shrank, we had to let 3 guys go at once. I wasn't there for the talk.

                                    However, when we had to fire one for performance issues, I was there (and voted). It was rough, indeed.

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                                    @George-K said in Now I feel like crap....:

                                    If you can/care, can you share the reasons for dismissal?

                                    Oh, this wasn't a firing, just a little pep-talk.

                                    What was funny was just how quiet the office was all afternoon. I'm quite interested to see how tomorrow goes.

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                                      Fear is the beginning of respect.

                                      I'm not talking about irrational fear or dread, just the acknowledgement that the boss does have the authority to bring the hammer and will do so if it has to be.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        In all seriousness, let me give you a piece of advice...

                                        It's not the people you fire that keep you up at night. It's the ones you should have fired and didn't.

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                                        @Jolly said in Now I feel like crap....:

                                        In all seriousness, let me give you a piece of advice...

                                        It's not the people you fire that keep you up at night. It's the ones you should have fired and didn't.

                                        I’ve fired a few people over the years and the one that really depressed me was because I wanted to take him out back and shoot him so he wouldn’t go to work somewhere else. He earned it.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Fear is the beginning of respect.

                                          I'm not talking about irrational fear or dread, just the acknowledgement that the boss does have the authority to bring the hammer and will do so if it has to be.

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                                          @Jolly said in Now I feel like crap....:

                                          Fear is the beginning of respect.

                                          I'm not talking about irrational fear or dread, just the acknowledgement that the boss does have the authority to bring the hammer and will do so if it has to be.

                                          I suspect the silence wasn't fear as much as sulking.

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