Trump - Butler, PA
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 03:30 last edited by
According to a report I heard, it has been the standing orders for the Secret Service to not shoot first in a situation like that for some time. There have been too many close calls with people with telescopes and the like, so the standing order is to not shoot unless they have taken hostile action.
I don’t know if that’s true, and it runs contrary to most reasoning, but so does having guys shorter than Trump trying to shield him, or having female agents that can’t figure out how to holster their weapon.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:09 last edited by
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:17 last edited by Jolly
@George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Bongino said last night, his sources told him that several of the "agents" working the Trump Rally were not Secret Service, but employees of another agency.
This dovetails with Crabtree's reporting.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:20 last edited by
I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?
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I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:22 last edited by@George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:
I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?
Don't know.
I do know Trump also uses private security to flesh out his Secret Service detail.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:27 last edited by
That’s gotta lead to some problems. Secret service gonna let a private security guy with a gun near the former president?
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:49 last edited by
Depends on what they do, I'm sure. I'm also sure they're probably vetted out the whazoo.
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I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:55 last edited by@George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:
I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?
Secret Service sez...
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 12:58 last edited by Jolly
The Secret Service canceled their press conference the other night.
And you have accusations from various sources about deficiencies of one kind or another.
Plus, Congress said they plan to hold hearings on the Secret Service and their role, responsibility and response in this assassination attempt.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:03 last edited by
Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.
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Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.
Link to videowrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:05 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional
Yep. They all are wearing the right sunglasses...most of the time.
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Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.
Link to videowrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:11 last edited by@LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.
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Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.
Link to videowrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:13 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.
Link to videoThose are retention holsters. They require a specific draw and reholstering. If adrenaline is screwing up your fine motor skills, it's a difficult task. Plus, her vision is not on the holster.
So, it's a training issue. They say it takes 10,000 reps to permanently imprint muscle memory. I don't think there are any shortcuts for DEI hires.
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@LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:21 last edited by@Axtremus said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.
Yeah that's not how muscle memory works.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:27 last edited by
In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.
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In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:28 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:
In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.
Oh, I think we all know what that is about.
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@George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:
So you don’t think the finger of God pushed the bullet away from Trump?
Nah. It was a Matrix Neo move.
If you watch the speech, Trump just barely shifts his head towards the podium when he’s struck. Had he not done that it would’ve gone through the right side of his head.
And the high def photo of the bullet wizzing by would be instead a spray of brain matter.
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:33 last edited by@89th said in Trump - Butler, PA:
If you watch the speech, Trump just barely shifts his head towards the podium when he’s struck. Had he not done that it would’ve gone through the right side of his head.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:41 last edited by
Hand of God.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 13:52 last edited by
We’ve all been paying a “Trump is mortal” tax. Today, that tax js being lifted off the stock market, now that Trump is established as an immortal God.
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In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.
wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 14:02 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:
In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.
Some of the NBC personnel on site reported some animosity directed towards members of the media after the shooting. Apparently, some of the Trump supporters felt that many of the media had amplified the dangerous rhetoric about the fundamental threat to the nation that Trump represents…
