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  • MikM Mik

    Doesn’t make sense that Crooks ever got a shot off.

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    @Mik said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    Doesn’t make sense that Crooks ever got a shot off.

    Agree. But you can see in the video the counter sniper was watching him and even “startled” when Crooks took the first shot. I have no idea, but considering how rare (and political) it would be for a Trump secret service officer to shoot and kill someone, I’m guessing they were waiting until they really saw a weapon or something unequivocally worthy of being killed.

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    • George KG George K

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

      So you don’t think the finger of God pushed the bullet away from Trump?

      Nah. It was a Matrix Neo move.

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      @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

      So you don’t think the finger of God pushed the bullet away from Trump?

      Nah. It was a Matrix Neo move.

      If you watch the speech, Trump just barely shifts his head towards the podium when he’s struck. Had he not done that it would’ve gone through the right side of his head.

      And the high def photo of the bullet wizzing by would be instead a spray of brain matter.

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        #154

        According to a report I heard, it has been the standing orders for the Secret Service to not shoot first in a situation like that for some time. There have been too many close calls with people with telescopes and the like, so the standing order is to not shoot unless they have taken hostile action.

        I don’t know if that’s true, and it runs contrary to most reasoning, but so does having guys shorter than Trump trying to shield him, or having female agents that can’t figure out how to holster their weapon.

        The Brad

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

            Bongino said last night, his sources told him that several of the "agents" working the Trump Rally were not Secret Service, but employees of another agency.

            This dovetails with Crabtree's reporting.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?

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                @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?

                Don't know.

                I do know Trump also uses private security to flesh out his Secret Service detail.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  That’s gotta lead to some problems. Secret service gonna let a private security guy with a gun near the former president?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Depends on what they do, I'm sure. I'm also sure they're probably vetted out the whazoo.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG George K

                      I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?

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                      @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                      I understand that former presidents get a lower, thinner, level of protection than the current POTUS. How does the former president's protection compare to the presumptive nominee's protection? Does the presumptive nominee's protection rise after the convention?

                      Secret Service sez...

                      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3082252/secret-service-rejects-accusations-security-diverted-trump-jill-biden/

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #162

                        The Secret Service canceled their press conference the other night.

                        And you have accusations from various sources about deficiencies of one kind or another.

                        Plus, Congress said they plan to hold hearings on the Secret Service and their role, responsibility and response in this assassination attempt. 🍿 🍿 🍿

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.

                          Link to video

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.

                            Link to video

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                            each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional

                            Yep. They all are wearing the right sunglasses...most of the time.

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.

                              Link to video

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                              Axtremus
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                              @LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.

                                Link to video

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                Come on, I am sure that each and every member of the team is a highly skilled professional.

                                Link to video

                                Those are retention holsters. They require a specific draw and reholstering. If adrenaline is screwing up your fine motor skills, it's a difficult task. Plus, her vision is not on the holster.

                                So, it's a training issue. They say it takes 10,000 reps to permanently imprint muscle memory. I don't think there are any shortcuts for DEI hires.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  @LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.

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                                  @Axtremus said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                  @LuFins-Dad , consider the possibility that her holster may have been grabbed or nudged out off its usual place in the midst of chaos.

                                  Yeah that's not how muscle memory works.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                      In the video, there is a guy in the forefront (in a ball cap) giving the middle finger to someone. Not sure what that is about.

                                      Oh, I think we all know what that is about.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        @George-K said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                        So you don’t think the finger of God pushed the bullet away from Trump?

                                        Nah. It was a Matrix Neo move.

                                        If you watch the speech, Trump just barely shifts his head towards the podium when he’s struck. Had he not done that it would’ve gone through the right side of his head.

                                        And the high def photo of the bullet wizzing by would be instead a spray of brain matter.

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                                        @89th said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                        If you watch the speech, Trump just barely shifts his head towards the podium when he’s struck. Had he not done that it would’ve gone through the right side of his head.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Hand of God.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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