Joe Defiant

[Axtremus]

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[Copper]

@89th said in Joe Defiant:

Guess it'll be Trump vs Biden

The only reason Mr. Biden hasn't dropped out is the dems don't want to give the reps time to replace Mr. Trump.

Mr. Biden will take all the negatives into retirement with him. And the replacement won't have enough time to get in trouble.

The replacement will ride a ton of excitement and enthusiasm into the Whitehouse.

[xenon]

He seems to be losing support. I heard a Vox podcast yesterday that characterized his posture as “Trump-like”

[Axtremus]

h/t @CHAS

When I cast my vote for President Biden, I wasn't expecting much. I just wanted trump out of office.
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I knew he was old.
I knew he had a stutter.
I knew he had a rep for "gaffes."
I didn't care. Just wanted trump gone.
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Four years later, things are different.
I wasn't expecting that President Biden would be the most legislatively successful President in my lifetime.
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I wasn't expecting him to help expand NATO.
I wasn't expecting him to lower insulin & inhalers.
I wasn't expecting him to create & recover 15m jobs.
I wasn't expecting him to bring manufacturing back.
I wasn't expecting him to forgive student debt.
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But he did ALL those things, and more.
He surpassed my expectations by a lot.
And he has more planned for 2025-2028.
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He's not a master orator,
He doesn't move so smoothly
But neither did FDR from his wheelchair.
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Meanwhile, trump is STILL a threat.
He wants to be a dictator.
He wants to stay out of prison.
He wants revenge on his enemies.
He wants to take away from the poor and middle class and give to the ultra wealthy.
His Project 2025 will enable a national abortion ban to criminalize women seeking safe and legal abortions.
His Project 2025 will take away the rights of our LGBTQ family and friends.
His Project 2025 will transform the government into a loyalty pledge, not to America but to him ALONE.
We might never have another free election.
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THAT is what is at stake in this election.
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We can continue to progress with Biden policies, or we can let trump destroy democracy as we know it.
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If you're looking for someone who's young and athletic, go watch a fucking movie.
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I'll take the old guy who needs a nap while saving democracy over the old guy trying to overthrow democracy who needs a legal team.

[Jolly]

Yeah, copied that one from across the fence, didn't you? Came right out of the Queer Fever Swamp. And contains more lies than you can shake a stick at.

BTW, notice those folks over there haven't written boo-shit about the assassination attempt or even commented on the innocent bystander's death or the other two people being wounded besides Trump.

[Horace]

There is something to envy in the adolescent hero worship style of political tribalism of the sort shown in that post. In the same way one might envy a retard with a permanent smile pasted on their face, wondering anew at the world, every day they experience it.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Joe Defiant:

BTW, notice those folks over there haven't written boo-shit about the assassination attempt or even commented on the innocent bystander's death or the other two people being wounded besides Trump.

They have, you need to look at the right place: https://wtf.coffee-room.com/topic/260/trump-rushed-off-stage-at-pa-rally/

[Horace]

TNCR blazes trails, others follow.

[LuFins Dad]

Brooklyn Dad is a joke on X. He has been caught in so many contradictions, it’s beyond ludicrous. But let’s take a look at the claims…

I wasn't expecting him to help expand NATO.

That’s all on Putin, thank you very much. And likely would have been unnecessary under a Trump admin.

I wasn't expecting him to lower insulin & inhalers.

Yes you were. Everybody was expecting caps to be placed on Insulin. It was inevitable, no matter who was in office.

I wasn't expecting him to create & recover 15m jobs.

Again with this shit?

I wasn't expecting him to bring manufacturing back.

Good thing, since he didn’t.

I wasn't expecting him to forgive student debt.

Yes, you were. And guess what? It’s probably the biggest reason Trump was leading in the polls before the debate. The student loan position is extremely unpopular.

[George K]

His Project 2025 will enable a national abortion ban to criminalize women seeking safe and legal abortions.
His Project 2025 will take away the rights of our LGBTQ family and friends.
His Project 2025 will transform the government into a loyalty pledge, not to America but to him ALONE.

"His" Project 2025? Really?

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Joe Defiant:

His Project 2025 will enable a national abortion ban to criminalize women seeking safe and legal abortions.
His Project 2025 will take away the rights of our LGBTQ family and friends.
His Project 2025 will transform the government into a loyalty pledge, not to America but to him ALONE.

"His" Project 2025? Really?

They're desperately trying to find something to rally the troops.

I hope he finds the time to read Project 2025. There are several things in there I agree with. I think many people would, too.

[taiwan_girl]

@LuFins-Dad said in Joe Defiant:

I wasn't expecting him to bring manufacturing back.
Good thing, since he didn’t.

Not to split hair, but the # of manufacturing jobs is higher now than at any point in President Trump presidency.

And if you compare to the end of President Trump presidency................

(I know I know COVID. But as I have said before, the president is accountable for EVERYTHING that happens during his time. He cannot just pick and choose the parts that make him look good. (Though I know that they all do that))

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Joe Defiant:

@LuFins-Dad said in Joe Defiant:

I wasn't expecting him to bring manufacturing back.
Good thing, since he didn’t.

Not to split hair, but the # of manufacturing jobs is higher now than at any point in President Trump presidency.

And if you compare to the end of President Trump presidency................

(I know I know COVID. But as I have said before, the president is accountable for EVERYTHING that happens during his time. He cannot just pick and choose the parts that make him look good. (Though I know that they all do that))

Be careful and don't slip. The floor is becoming quite bloody from that dead horse you keep beating.

[LuFins Dad]

@taiwan_girl said in Joe Defiant:

@LuFins-Dad said in Joe Defiant:

I wasn't expecting him to bring manufacturing back.
Good thing, since he didn’t.

Not to split hair, but the # of manufacturing jobs is higher now than at any point in President Trump presidency.

And if you compare to the end of President Trump presidency................

(I know I know COVID. But as I have said before, the president is accountable for EVERYTHING that happens during his time. He cannot just pick and choose the parts that make him look good. (Though I know that they all do that))

That hardly qualifies as being “back”. It won’t be “back” for another 20 years, if ever, and it won’t be through executive action.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Joe Defiant:

Be careful and don't slip. The floor is becoming quite bloody from that dead horse you keep beating.

I am just trying to point out, taking the emotion out of it, that President Trump was not the second coming of (insert whoever you believe in) during his first term and won't be in his second term if he is elected.

There is a tendency for those on the right side who have TDS to wear rose glasses when it comes to looking at his term in total. Maybe because President Biden is doing so poorly. LOL

President Trump is a very good cheerleader if he is saying the things that "align" with (generic) you thinking. He is able to make (generic) you feel better, even if the "quantitative" numbers say things are the same as the previous (or current) administration.

• Avg. Border crossing actually INCREASED from President Obama to President Trump
• Manufacturing jobs is HIGHER now than at any point in President Trumps term
• money supply was quadrupled during President Trump term. I think that any economist, no matter which side they follow, will tell you that 4x the money supply = eventually higher inflation
• average return of US stock market (SP500, Dow Jones, etc) was higher under President Obama vs President Trump after four years. On a % basis, President Biden = President Trump right now on the stock market
• this is more "qualitative" but I think that Republics have underperformed expectations since 2018, the first major election that President Trump had control of the party. Same in 2020 and 2022. Some of that has to fall to leadership.
• through the end of June 2024, President Biden has appointed 201 federal judges. President Trump appointed 200 at the same point of his presidents term.
  etc.

[Jolly]

I think you'll have your definitive answer come November.

But look at the bright side...You've quit straddling the fence...

[Aqua Letifer]

@taiwan_girl said in Joe Defiant:

@Jolly said in Joe Defiant:

Be careful and don't slip. The floor is becoming quite bloody from that dead horse you keep beating.

I am just trying to point out, taking the emotion out of it, that President Trump was not the second coming of (insert whoever you believe in) during his first term and won't be in his second term if he is elected.

We're all very glad you are here to point that out as I'm sure this particular insight has never been shared before.

[Horace]

Sometimes I parody a pro-Trump perspective here to comport with TG’s characterizations of Trump supporters. Other times I parody TDS perspectives, to comport with actual TDS patients who actually exist here and everywhere else.