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Happy Juneteenth, 2024

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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      I'd agree, but cynical me does not think that was the impetus behind it becoming a holiday.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

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        @jon-nyc said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

        Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

        When was that step? When exactly did it take place?

        Historically, Juneteenth wasn't a set date. If we want one, let's start one on its own instead of piggybacking off of something over half the country still doesn't understand.

        Please love yourself.

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          And let's get the history correct.

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            I’ve always thought the date of the Emancipation Proclamation should be the date for the holiday, but I guess competing with New Year’s makes it a no go.

            The Brad

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                Thanks Republicans!

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @jon-nyc said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                  Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

                  When was that step? When exactly did it take place?

                  Historically, Juneteenth wasn't a set date. If we want one, let's start one on its own instead of piggybacking off of something over half the country still doesn't understand.

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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                  @jon-nyc said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                  Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

                  When was that step? When exactly did it take place?

                  Ending chattel slavery. It started even before the founding and culminated in the mid 1860s.

                  Historically, Juneteenth wasn't a set date. If we want one, let's start one on its own instead of piggybacking off of something over half the country still doesn't understand.

                  I don’t see how it matters. This anchors it to the event the way Washington’s birthday anchors ‘presidents day’ to presidents.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    I'm sure there is some celebration of the event, but for the most part it sounds like another civil rights march.

                    We've come a long way but we have a long way to go.

                    Swell, but to make me pay any attention to the holiday, I'd like to hear a little more "Thanks to the 400,000+ (estimates vary) Union soldiers who died to make juneteenth happen.

                    And of course Thanks Republicans.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Mik said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                      I'm celebrating by making coffee.

                      OK, just make sure it's black.

                      And bitter.

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                      @George-K said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                      @Mik said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                      I'm celebrating by making coffee.

                      OK, just make sure it's black.

                      And bitter.

                      POTD trumped by another POTD!

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                        Thought we had an Independence Day already...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

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                          @jon-nyc said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                          Honestly it seems like a topic worthy of a national holiday. I don’t m mean the specific events in Texas of 1865, but rather commemorating the end of chattel slavery in the US. It’s impossible to imagine any larger step toward the Declaration of Independence’s ideal of ‘All Men are Created Equal”

                          Agreed.

                          Although as @Mik said it wasn't the impetus... it was an unlikely holiday until George Floyd and the BLM wave of social pressure made it an automatic Congressional vote. I know you know that, btw.

                          Anyway... I took my kids to the zoo for the holiday. The only impact the holiday has is it gives me a free 8 hours of paid holiday time at work (and a few stupid emails from management). The zoo was busy, and yes I avoided making any jokes here about which zoo exhibit we visited first.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Thought we had an Independence Day already...

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                            @Jolly said in Happy Juneteenth, 2024:

                            Thought we had an Independence Day already...

                            The only holiday better than Lee-Jackson Day!

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