Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.
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We do seem to be careening toward selfishness, yes. But I think that will change. Eventually just about everyone figures out that a big component of happiness is having something more important to you than yourself. The pursuit of one's own pleasure is ultimately unsatisfying.
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I'm more worried that the institution is falling out of favor altogether for a portion of the population.
@xenon said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
I'm more worried that the institution is falling out of favor altogether for a portion of the population.
Could be.
First, a bit about Covenant Marriages:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_marriage
It's not as crazy as many people think. Mandatory pre-marriage counseling and couples counseling when filing for divorce. Divorce timeframe based on certain factors.
Now, divorce in general...I think it goes along with good premarital counseling. Nobody is saying to do away with divorce, they just want to add a few more hoops... Counseling, a waiting period except in some cases, etc. Yes, it's probably a minority, but some marriages are better being salvaged...It's better for the individual and better for society.
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If you don't want to get divorced, then don't get divorced.
Don't tell me what to do with my life.
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If you don't want to get divorced, then don't get divorced.
Don't tell me what to do with my life.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
If you don't want to get divorced, then don't get divorced.
Don't tell me what to do with my life.
People do it all the time through ordinances, laws and tax codes.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
If you don't want to get divorced, then don't get divorced.
Don't tell me what to do with my life.
People do it all the time through ordinances, laws and tax codes.
That
has already left the barn.@Jolly said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
People do it all the time through ordinances, laws and tax codes.
That has already left the barn.
So much for liberty and and the supposedly conservative value of minimizing government interference in things they have no business controlling.
You're actually in favour of increasing the power those cunts have over my life?
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It’s a political nonstarter. It goes nowhere. No chance of succeeding.
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it actually damages the party. The blowback of this position drives more voters against the party, including some republicans.
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Even if by some chance you managed to succeed to get it through, the result will not be what you think it is. It will just result in couples forming even looser attachments.
This horse has left the barn and to pursue these policies at this point is utter stupidity
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Expecting people to live in misery because they can't decide which one is to blame probably isn't a big vote-winner.
I was only joking
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And I personally believe that marriage has been damaged and divorces are too easy, and that has had a huge negative effect on society. But I also believe Vox isn’t completely wrong on this one, either.
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Opponents of gay marriage have for quite some time used the argument that 'marriage isn't something the government should get involved with', and that it's primarily a religious undertaking.
Apparently, this is no longer the case.
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Personal relationships including marriage, is a state of mind between two people.
Pseudo-conservative and other sway backed busybodies claiming religious privilege should keep their God-damned noses out of people’s private lives.
@Renauda said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
marriage, is a state of mind between two people.
If that was true there would be no headlines about this.
Marriage is something defined by and maintained by the state. Like anything else the majority elects legislators to deal with it.
And it is not something that was done to stick the government's nose into people's business. Marriage is something that is desirable for the state. Stable relationships and children are important to the state. This is an institution worth protecting.
Marriage also has a religious tradition that is important to many and non-religious people should keep their God-damned noses out of it.
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Expecting people to live in misery because they can't decide which one is to blame probably isn't a big vote-winner.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
Expecting people to live in misery because they can't decide which one is to blame probably isn't a big vote-winner.
Don't see where anything proposed condemns people to live in misery.
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See how well the idea is being received here? I’m sure it will be a big winner in the general public, though.
That was sarcasm, btw.
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How does Donald and
Ivanka.MarlaMelania feel about it?The Brad
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I dunno.
Are we banning divorce? Nope, didn't think so. Just contemplating making it harder than changing your socks.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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How does Donald and
Ivanka.MarlaMelania feel about it?@LuFins-Dad said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
How does Donald and
Ivanka.MarlaMelania feel about it?Those weren't no-fault divorces. They just got tired of having to listen to him read the Bible to them for 4 hours every night.
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I dunno.
Are we banning divorce? Nope, didn't think so. Just contemplating making it harder than changing your socks.
@Jolly said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
Just contemplating making it harder than changing your socks.
Just charge a nominal filing fee that is slightly more expensive than a typical new pair of socks from Target and already you would make it harder than changing your socks. There really is no reason to go the extreme of government overreach like outlawing "no fault" divorce to achieve your rather modest stated goal of making it harder than changing your socks.
But, really, as a freedom loving American, I would much rather the state stays out of the marriage thing entirely.
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@Renauda said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
Are you finished?
I am here until death do us part.
That is the commitment.
This is not to be taken lightly.
Grow up.
@Copper said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
@Renauda said in Yep, and believe in Covenant Marriage, too.:
Are you finished?
I am here until death do us part.
That is the commitment.
This is not to be taken lightly.
Grow up.
I wasn’t aware that you believe you entered into a matrimonial relationship with TNCR. In your mind a covenant of sorts. Rather odd.
My posts on this topic obviously trigger you. Get used to it. They will continue in that same vein of impunity and impiety so long as cullions such as yourself continue lurching around.
Sod off.
