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Right now, I think the majority of the country that has paid much attention to this trial knows it was not conducted properly. And if this political tactic works, tit-for-tat will soon follow.
That will be the country your children will inherit.
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Trial by jury is only effective when it is fair.
And the jury bases its verdict on what it is allowed to see.
In this case it was the unspoken allegation of a campaign finance violation. Yet the defense's motion to seat an expert on campaign finance law (former FEC chair) was denied by the judge.
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And if this political tactic works, tit-for-tat will soon follow.
Will the GOP have the balls to do this? I am skeptical.
But, you can't put the shit back into the horse.
It’s not about lack of balls, it’s about about lack of capacity.
Dems don’t really have the exposure in Red jurisdictions the same way that Lame Donald has in New York. They live, work, and play in safely Dem controlled regions. That’s going to make it extraordinarily hard for a prosecutor in West Virginia to go after a Joe Biden or a Barack Obama. And going after political opponents at the Federal level is a completely different fish to fry and is much more difficult to pull off.
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Right now, I think the majority of the country that has paid much attention to this trial knows it was not conducted properly. And if this political tactic works, tit-for-tat will soon follow.
That will be the country your children will inherit.
Not sure... most of the country has not paid much attention tot this trial. Heck, a former president was just found guilty of a felony and the headline isn't even the lead on some of the websites I check each morning such as cnbc.com and wtop.com. I think most of the country knows Trump pushes the line legally with many things so they aren't surprised when one of the cases finds him guilty.
And honestly, if a president commits a felony.... go for it, charge them, find them guilty if they are. The dems and repubs have been doing this forever, I'm not too worried about the country. Maybe national debt, social security, war with China, and the damn cost of McDoubles.... but politically, I am hopeful in a few years we get past this battle of nursing home residents and restore some normalcy and energy to the white house to lead the executive branch against the above issues.
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I haven't followed every case but feel like it's pretty common sense Trump pushes the legal boundary wherever he can, so when I see cases against him I am completely unsurprised.
Whether it's being sloppy with handling classified records, or asking a state official to find votes in his favor, or allegedly sexually assaulting and defaming someone, or conspiracy to defraud the United States (subvert democracy), or to fraudulently report the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, or to falsify business records while paying hush money...
In other words, FAFO. I'd feel the same if Obama allegedly did all of those things and the justice system went after him.
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Say what you like, trial by jury is a sound system.
I am sure that Trump was gulity as hell and the verdict was correct. I don’t not think this was the trial that should have come first. The pending trials are the ones that would damage the Trump brand most. This one is the least damaging and will likely bolster his campaign.
Not much for anyone to rejoice about. Politically Trump is stronger today than he was before the jury read its verdict.
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I haven't followed every case but feel like it's pretty common sense Trump pushes the legal boundary wherever he can, so when I see cases against him I am completely unsurprised.
Whether it's being sloppy with handling classified records, or asking a state official to find votes in his favor, or allegedly sexually assaulting and defaming someone, or conspiracy to defraud the United States (subvert democracy), or to fraudulently report the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, or to falsify business records while paying hush money...
In other words, FAFO. I'd feel the same if Obama allegedly did all of those things and the justice system went after him.
If Obama had been convicted yesterday, your city would be burning...
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@xenon Yep. I was just listening to NPR on my way to haircut. They bemoaned the abandonment of long held norms - only by the GOP, of course. Either a complete lack of self-awareness or a deliberate descent into propaganda.
Propaganda.
They know exactly what they are doing. I used to listen to NPR 25 years ago. I never listen to them today. They no longer have anything my America wants to listen to...
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I agree with 89 on a broader point - Trump just doesn't get what America is and how it's able to work. I think he has excellent instincts on what it should feel like to be an American.
That's not enough. He gets into situations that undermine the republic and he's way too self absorbed to care.
He also brings out the worst in the opposition. That's kind of not his fault - but we should all know better.
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He literally tried to overturn an election in which he lost, so that he could stay in power.
He thought he had been cheated and was using every legal means possible to try to beat the cheat.
Now, stud duck, you tell me what laws he broke? I'd like to hear how Trump was illegally trying to overturn the government...