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Butker calls it out.

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 18 May 2024, 01:48 last edited by
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    The sisters respond.

    https://www.mountosb.org/ - right on the front page.

    As a founding institution and sponsor of Benedictine College, the sisters of Mount St. Scholastica find it necessary to respond to the controversial remarks of Harrison Butker as commencement speaker.

    Statement in Response to the 2024
    Benedictine College Commencement Address

    The sisters of Mount St. Scholastica do not believe that Harrison Butker’s comments in his 2024 Benedictine College commencement address represent the Catholic, Benedictine, liberal arts college that our founders envisioned and in which we have been so invested.
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    • M Mik
      17 May 2024, 16:32

      @taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

      @Renauda As usual, good points. Thanks!

      So, you love him, but not me. Hmmmph.

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 18 May 2024, 02:01 last edited by
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      @Mik said in Butker calls it out.:

      @taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

      @Renauda As usual, good points. Thanks!

      So, you love him, but not me. Hmmmph.

      I love you too!! :couplekiss:

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      • J Jolly
        17 May 2024, 19:49

        @taiwan_girl Did you listen to his speech?

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 18 May 2024, 02:02 last edited by
        #93

        @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

        @taiwan_girl Did you listen to his speech?

        Just read the transcript, but did not listen to the verbal speech.

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        • A Axtremus
          17 May 2024, 23:36

          @LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:

          The moments of my life before Lucas was born are nowhere near as important or as dear as those moments after. That’s not to diminish the earlier life, but to emphasize how different and improved my life is. Karla would agree..

          1. A bit of a strawman switheroo there, buddy; reflecting on the relative importance/preciousness of different moments of one’s life is not the same as claiming that one’s life hasn’t really started before certain moment/event.

          2. If Butker said whatever he said of his own life (and even adds that his wife would agree), there would be no controversy. But no, he said of someone else’s life, he said of his wife’s life, that her life didn’t “truly start” before she begin living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.[*]

          So …

          • Just because you feel that your life before certain event/moment was less important/precious does not mean anyone else’s life is as well.

          • Any of us, imagine saying out loud or posting in public proclaiming that “[my spouse]’s life truly started when he/she began living her/her vocation as a [spouse] and as a [parent]” … see what happens.

          [*] Taking Butker’s words as is, one can also ask what happens to the lives of those who never married or never been a parent. Take Biblical Jesus, for example, Biblical Jesus basically died (and resurrected and remain) single, a virgin, and childless; has Biblical Jesus’ life never “truly started” then using Butker’s standard?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 18 May 2024, 03:06 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in Butker calls it out.:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:

          The moments of my life before Lucas was born are nowhere near as important or as dear as those moments after. That’s not to diminish the earlier life, but to emphasize how different and improved my life is. Karla would agree..

          1. A bit of a strawman switheroo there, buddy; reflecting on the relative importance/preciousness of different moments of one’s life is not the same as claiming that one’s life hasn’t really started before certain moment/event.

          2. If Butker said whatever he said of his own life (and even adds that his wife would agree), there would be no controversy. But no, he said of someone else’s life, he said of his wife’s life, that her life didn’t “truly start” before she begin living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.[*]

          So …

          • Just because you feel that your life before certain event/moment was less important/precious does not mean anyone else’s life is as well.

          • Any of us, imagine saying out loud or posting in public proclaiming that “[my spouse]’s life truly started when he/she began living her/her vocation as a [spouse] and as a [parent]” … see what happens.

          [*] Taking Butker’s words as is, one can also ask what happens to the lives of those who never married or never been a parent. Take Biblical Jesus, for example, Biblical Jesus basically died (and resurrected and remain) single, a virgin, and childless; has Biblical Jesus’ life never “truly started” then using Butker’s standard?

          Geez, you're a dick...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Renauda
            wrote on 18 May 2024, 04:15 last edited by Renauda
            #95

            Ax sure knows how to ruffle your old rooster feathers, Foghorn.

            The Brits call it “taking the piss”. I just find it extremely amusing.

            Elbows up!

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 18 May 2024, 11:42 last edited by
              #96

              He's taking the bleedin' Mickey, innit!

              I was only joking

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                Jolly
                wrote on 20 May 2024, 13:02 last edited by
                #97

                Greg weighs in...

                https://rumble.com/v4vum29-gutfeld-on-the-phony-outrage-mob-youre-a-bag-of-assholes.html

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 20 May 2024, 13:55 last edited by
                  #98

                  Spot on.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 20 May 2024, 14:04 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #99

                    How dare he call me a bag of assholes. I'm a wanker, just ask anybody.

                    I was only joking

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 20 May 2024, 18:42 last edited by
                      #100

                      Read some of the replies.

                      The Brad

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 20 May 2024, 18:59 last edited by
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                        Never mind all that namby pamby self-affirming bollocks. The public has a right to know - WJHT?

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          20 May 2024, 18:59

                          Never mind all that namby pamby self-affirming bollocks. The public has a right to know - WJHT?

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 20 May 2024, 19:01 last edited by
                          #102

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                          Never mind all that namby pamby self-affirming bollocks. The public has a right to know - WJHT?

                          Mother Fucker…

                          The Brad

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 21 May 2024, 11:09 last edited by Axtremus
                            #103

                            The Butker controversy made it to the Daily Show.
                            Jon Stewart on Butker and the Cancel Culture:

                            Link to video

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 21 May 2024, 11:14 last edited by
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                              I suppose the short black mouthpiece would say Mr. Butker would be invited, since if he was not invited, the owner and most of the team would not show up.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
                                wrote on 21 May 2024, 11:25 last edited by
                                #105

                                I really haven't paid much attention to this ginned-up controversy.

                                Lemme see if I get it right:

                                Football player expresses his values and a nation is outraged. Is that correct?

                                image.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  21 May 2024, 11:25

                                  I really haven't paid much attention to this ginned-up controversy.

                                  Lemme see if I get it right:

                                  Football player expresses his values and a nation is outraged. Is that correct?

                                  image.jpeg

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 21 May 2024, 12:01 last edited by
                                  #106

                                  @George-K said in Butker calls it out.:

                                  I really haven't paid much attention to this ginned-up controversy.

                                  Lemme see if I get it right:

                                  Football player expresses his values and a nation is outraged. Is that correct?

                                  image.jpeg

                                  I wouldn’t say nation, just the sammich makers.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    21 May 2024, 12:01

                                    @George-K said in Butker calls it out.:

                                    I really haven't paid much attention to this ginned-up controversy.

                                    Lemme see if I get it right:

                                    Football player expresses his values and a nation is outraged. Is that correct?

                                    image.jpeg

                                    I wouldn’t say nation, just the sammich makers.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 21 May 2024, 12:10 last edited by
                                    #107

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:

                                    I wouldn’t say nation, just the sammich makers.

                                    And dishwashers.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • A Axtremus
                                      21 May 2024, 11:09

                                      The Butker controversy made it to the Daily Show.
                                      Jon Stewart on Butker and the Cancel Culture:

                                      Link to video

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 21 May 2024, 13:42 last edited by
                                      #108

                                      @Axtremus said in Butker calls it out.:

                                      The Butker controversy made it to the Daily Show.
                                      Jon Stewart on Butker and the Cancel Culture:

                                      Link to video

                                      Pick soundbites from the massive soundbite universe, and frame them as contradictions to make the right look bad. What an edge lord. And the clapping apes in the audience, chef's kiss. Don't you ever go changing, Mr Stewart, or your audience. We love you just the way you are.

                                      He closes with the claim that "nobody ever gets fired for criticizing DEI, they'll probably just get promoted". I mean, I know neither Stewart nor his writers have ever had a real job, but this seems particularly disconnected from reality even for people like them.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 21 May 2024, 13:50 last edited by Horace
                                        #109

                                        Meanwhile, Biden gave a commencement at an historically black college in which he heaped psychological abuse on the black community, telling them that the nation is out to get them in several different ways. Crickets, of course, for this mainstream abuse of the black community, courtesy of your local progressive ideologues.

                                        You missed your high school graduation. You started college just as George Floyd was murdered and there was a reckoning on race.

                                        It’s natural to wonder if democracy you hear about actually works for you.

                                        What is democracy if Black men are being killed in the street?

                                        What is democracy if a trail of broken promises still leave Black — Black communities behind?

                                        What is democracy if you have to be 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot?

                                        And most of all, what does it mean, as we’ve heard before, to be a Black man who loves his country even if it doesn’t love him back in equal measure? (Applause.)

                                        Even a room temperature IQ leftist must know that, if this messaging isn't actually true, it's psychologically abusive to those with black skin who receive it.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 21 May 2024, 14:00 last edited by
                                          #110

                                          Panderer in chief

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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