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  • kluursK kluurs

    @taiwan_girl

    Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.

    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”

    Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

    Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’

    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

    Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”


    At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.

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    @kluurs said in I love it when he takes me literally:

    @taiwan_girl

    Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.

    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”

    Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

    Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’

    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

    Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”


    At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.

    And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @kluurs said in I love it when he takes me literally:

      @taiwan_girl

      Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.

      Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

      Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

      Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

      Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

      Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

      National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

      National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

      Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

      Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

      Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

      Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”

      Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

      Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’

      Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

      Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

      Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

      Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

      Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

      National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

      National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

      Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

      Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

      Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

      Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

      Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”


      At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.

      And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

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      @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

      And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

      To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.

      I was only joking

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        Biden is bad

        Trump is a little better

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

          And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

          To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.

          JollyJ Offline
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in I love it when he takes me literally:

          @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

          And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

          To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.

          Sorry, can't have it both ways.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Doctor-Phibes said in I love it when he takes me literally:

            @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

            And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

            To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.

            Sorry, can't have it both ways.

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            @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

            Sorry, can't have it both ways.

            "He's useless but slightly less shit than the other guy" - not exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm sure many people feel much the same way about Biden.

            I was only joking

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.

              Trump paved the road to Biden-Harris. :man-shrugging:

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              @Axtremus said in I love it when he takes me literally:

              Trump paved the road to Biden-Harris.

              If you believe the polls (granted, it's early) in the battleground states, there's gonna be a U-Turn.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                It’s like deciding which STD is right for me.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Would sir prefer the urine, or the vomit?

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @kluurs said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                    @taiwan_girl

                    Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.

                    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

                    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

                    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

                    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

                    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

                    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

                    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

                    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

                    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

                    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

                    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”

                    Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

                    Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’

                    Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.

                    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”

                    Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

                    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."

                    Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”

                    National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “

                    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”

                    Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."

                    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

                    Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”

                    Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”

                    Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”


                    At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.

                    And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

                    taiwan_girlT Online
                    taiwan_girlT Online
                    taiwan_girl
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                    @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                    And yet...Many some of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.

                    Some have said they will vote for Biden
                    Some have not said
                    Some have said they will vote a third name

                    Like I said, I may or may not agree with their politics/policies, but I give their experience working side by side with President Trump credibility.

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                      @Jolly

                      1. Like the woke agenda? Vote Biden Trump.

                      Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                      HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
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                        I don't see where it has receded. Morphed, perhaps, but not receded.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Jolly

                          1. Like the woke agenda? Vote Biden Trump.

                          Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.

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                          @jon-nyc said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                          @Jolly

                          1. Like the woke agenda? Vote Biden Trump.

                          Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.

                          You can frame it that way. Or you could frame it like the woke backlash is the fault of those who catastrophize Trump, and so render everything opposite of him more virtuous. Words are tricky. Mostly I'm glad that now we can not only define wokeness, but we can also measure it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Analogous to gun sales increasing under Democratic Presidents.

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                              @Horace Absolve Trump from blame if you want, but the causal connection is the point. A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace Absolve Trump from blame if you want, but the causal connection is the point. A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.

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                                @jon-nyc said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.

                                Do you think he causes the wokeness or the people who can't stand him (you know, there are some) get outraged by just about anything?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @89th said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  @George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  as President Biden is, he has his handlers to keep him inside the guardrails. I dont think that President Trump has that.

                                  That might be a fair assessment. Might.

                                  But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?

                                  Really the question is, do you elect Trump (possibly a convicted criminal by then) or essentially Kamala, who Biden will hand the controls to in 2025 or 2026.

                                  Honestly, keep Biden. He's a known quantity, as is Kamala, and it would make 2028 a heck of a lot easier for DeSantis to win. And with the economy still in question, I don't think that's something Kamala will be able to run on.

                                  1. Judges. Do you want eight years of Biden judges? They'll be here long after Biden is gone...Especially on SCOTUS. Vote Biden!
                                  2. Like the Woke Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                  3. Like the current transmania? Vote Biden!
                                  4. Like taxes? Vote Biden!
                                  5. Like the current political weaponization of the Just-us Department? Vote Biden!
                                  6. Like the Equity Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                  7. Like millions of illegals, including terrorists, pouring unchecked across our Southern Border? Vote Biden!
                                  8. You like inflation? Vote Biden!
                                  9. You love POTUS characterizing half the country as freedom-hating monsters? Vote Biden!
                                  10. Want a weak president that will encourage Russia, Iran and Northe Korea in further adventures? Vote Biden!
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                                  @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  @89th said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  @George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                  as President Biden is, he has his handlers to keep him inside the guardrails. I dont think that President Trump has that.

                                  That might be a fair assessment. Might.

                                  But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?

                                  Really the question is, do you elect Trump (possibly a convicted criminal by then) or essentially Kamala, who Biden will hand the controls to in 2025 or 2026.

                                  Honestly, keep Biden. He's a known quantity, as is Kamala, and it would make 2028 a heck of a lot easier for DeSantis to win. And with the economy still in question, I don't think that's something Kamala will be able to run on.

                                  1. Judges. Do you want eight years of Biden judges? They'll be here long after Biden is gone...Especially on SCOTUS. Vote Biden!
                                  2. Like the Woke Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                  3. Like the current transmania? Vote Biden!
                                  4. Like taxes? Vote Biden!
                                  5. Like the current political weaponization of the Just-us Department? Vote Biden!
                                  6. Like the Equity Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                  7. Like millions of illegals, including terrorists, pouring unchecked across our Southern Border? Vote Biden!
                                  8. You like inflation? Vote Biden!
                                  9. You love POTUS characterizing half the country as freedom-hating monsters? Vote Biden!
                                  10. Want a weak president that will encourage Russia, Iran and Northe Korea in further adventures? Vote Biden!

                                  In fairness, #s 2,3,6, and 8 apply equally or even more so to Trump.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @89th said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    as President Biden is, he has his handlers to keep him inside the guardrails. I dont think that President Trump has that.

                                    That might be a fair assessment. Might.

                                    But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?

                                    Really the question is, do you elect Trump (possibly a convicted criminal by then) or essentially Kamala, who Biden will hand the controls to in 2025 or 2026.

                                    Honestly, keep Biden. He's a known quantity, as is Kamala, and it would make 2028 a heck of a lot easier for DeSantis to win. And with the economy still in question, I don't think that's something Kamala will be able to run on.

                                    1. Judges. Do you want eight years of Biden judges? They'll be here long after Biden is gone...Especially on SCOTUS. Vote Biden!
                                    2. Like the Woke Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                    3. Like the current transmania? Vote Biden!
                                    4. Like taxes? Vote Biden!
                                    5. Like the current political weaponization of the Just-us Department? Vote Biden!
                                    6. Like the Equity Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                    7. Like millions of illegals, including terrorists, pouring unchecked across our Southern Border? Vote Biden!
                                    8. You like inflation? Vote Biden!
                                    9. You love POTUS characterizing half the country as freedom-hating monsters? Vote Biden!
                                    10. Want a weak president that will encourage Russia, Iran and Northe Korea in further adventures? Vote Biden!

                                    In fairness, #s 2,3,6, and 8 apply equally or even more so to Trump.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @89th said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                    as President Biden is, he has his handlers to keep him inside the guardrails. I dont think that President Trump has that.

                                    That might be a fair assessment. Might.

                                    But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?

                                    Really the question is, do you elect Trump (possibly a convicted criminal by then) or essentially Kamala, who Biden will hand the controls to in 2025 or 2026.

                                    Honestly, keep Biden. He's a known quantity, as is Kamala, and it would make 2028 a heck of a lot easier for DeSantis to win. And with the economy still in question, I don't think that's something Kamala will be able to run on.

                                    1. Judges. Do you want eight years of Biden judges? They'll be here long after Biden is gone...Especially on SCOTUS. Vote Biden!
                                    2. Like the Woke Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                    3. Like the current transmania? Vote Biden!
                                    4. Like taxes? Vote Biden!
                                    5. Like the current political weaponization of the Just-us Department? Vote Biden!
                                    6. Like the Equity Agenda? Vote Biden!
                                    7. Like millions of illegals, including terrorists, pouring unchecked across our Southern Border? Vote Biden!
                                    8. You like inflation? Vote Biden!
                                    9. You love POTUS characterizing half the country as freedom-hating monsters? Vote Biden!
                                    10. Want a weak president that will encourage Russia, Iran and Northe Korea in further adventures? Vote Biden!

                                    In fairness, #s 2,3,6, and 8 apply equally or even more so to Trump.

                                    Some Trump justices overturned the affirmative action stuff. How does that fit into your point about 2 or 6?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      @Horace Absolve Trump from blame if you want, but the causal connection is the point. A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                      @Horace Absolve Trump from blame if you want, but the causal connection is the point. A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.

                                      I was more indicating that a choice of verbal framing will lead one to a causality of one's own choosing.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @Jolly

                                        1. Like the woke agenda? Vote Biden Trump.

                                        Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in I love it when he takes me literally:

                                        @Jolly

                                        1. Like the woke agenda? Vote Biden Trump.

                                        Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.

                                        That’s like blaming the wife for the husband hitting her.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Except again, no blame happened in my post.

                                          Causal connections don’t per se contain moral valences.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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