I love it when he takes me literally
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@89th said in I love it when he takes me literally:
@George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:
@taiwan_girl said in I love it when he takes me literally:
as President Biden is, he has his handlers to keep him inside the guardrails. I dont think that President Trump has that.
That might be a fair assessment. Might.
But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?
Really the question is, do you elect Trump (possibly a convicted criminal by then) or essentially Kamala, who Biden will hand the controls to in 2025 or 2026.
Honestly, keep Biden. He's a known quantity, as is Kamala, and it would make 2028 a heck of a lot easier for DeSantis to win. And with the economy still in question, I don't think that's something Kamala will be able to run on.
- Judges. Do you want eight years of Biden judges? They'll be here long after Biden is gone...Especially on SCOTUS. Vote Biden!
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- Like millions of illegals, including terrorists, pouring unchecked across our Southern Border? Vote Biden!
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The thing that also amazes me is the large number of very very close associates of President Trump who have said either directly or indirectly that he is not fit to be President. It is not the friend of a friends wife whose neighbor works for the secret service who said that President Clinton is a bad guy.
These are people who spent HOURS AND HOURS EVERY DAY working with him - probably saw President Trump more than his wife. I may or may not agree with these peoples policies and philosophies, but I definitely give weight to their assessment of President Trunp.
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Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.
Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”
Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."
Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “
National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”
Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”
Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”
Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”
Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”
Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’
Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”
Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."
Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “
National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”
Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”
Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”
Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”
Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”
At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.
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@Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:
@Axtremus said in I love it when he takes me literally:
@George-K said in I love it when he takes me literally:
But, whom do we elect? A man or unknown handlers?
What "unknown handlers"?
If you think Biden has been relying on "handlers," at least you know these "handlers" have a pretty good track record.Trump's conduct sucks[1] with or without "handlers," and if you do not believe Trump has "handlers" now, how sure are you that he won't have handlers in the next 4+ years as he ages even more? At that point you will indeed be dealing with "unknown handlers."
[1] Remeber these? Buy Greenland. Impose tariff on Canadian steel on national security grounds. Impose tariff on German steel also on national security grounds. Let's have a military parade. Calling POWs and those who gave their lives in wars "losers". Sharpie-gate. Let's inject bleach to treat COVID-19. Dear Leader has "great and beautiful" vision for his country. Another Dear Leader is "genius" and "savvy". Locker room talk: grab 'em by the WHAT ...
Yep, I remember those. Most are either proven lies or distortions of what he said.
You need to turn off NPR and get your nose out of WAPO.
You don’t remember well. The Trump tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum was very real and there was no distortion of what your American Moses said to justify his actions:
Maybe you should get your news from sources other than the Murdochs and your local coffee and donut shop.
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@kluurs said in I love it when he takes me literally:
Yes, that's a good case for Biden. The people who know Trump the best - don't think too highly of him. Looking back at past Presidents, I can't think of too many of their minions/colleagues who do such denigration of their leader.
Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”
Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."
Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “
National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”
Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”
Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”
Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … ”
Vice President Dick Cheney: “There has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. “he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”
Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk called Trump a "malignant clown — unprepared and unfit to be President of the United States."’
Chief of Staff John Kelly described Trump as an "idiot" - ‘the most flawed person’ he’s ever met.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Trump is an “idiot.”
Chief of Staff Reince Priebus also described Trump as an “idiot.” “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to Trump as a "F'ing moron."
Steve Bannon said that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,”
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster referred to Trump as a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner." “
National Security Advisor, John Bolton, “If Trump is elected there will be celebrations in the Kremlin”
Economic Adviser Gary Cohn referred to Trump as "dumb as sh.t."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said President Donald Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.” “He is more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”
Mike Pence, Vice-President: “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. … President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution.”
Attorney General, Bill Barr, “"he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest.”
Tucker Carlson; of Trump’s presidency, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”
At the same time, the argument for Trump is fie upon both parties who are nothing but thieves who are there to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. I keep remembering Harry Truman's injunction that any politician who gets rich at the expense of the public is a crook - well, it would then follow that we have a lot of crooks running our country. Trump may not provide an immediate solution, but he's a disruptor who might pave the road to something better.
And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.
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@Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:
And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.
To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in I love it when he takes me literally:
@Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:
And yet...Many of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.
To be fair, a number of them would likely vote for a red-arsed baboon before Joe Biden, or pretty much any Democrat.
Sorry, can't have it both ways.
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@Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:
Sorry, can't have it both ways.
"He's useless but slightly less shit than the other guy" - not exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm sure many people feel much the same way about Biden.
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Would sir prefer the urine, or the vomit?
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@Jolly said in I love it when he takes me literally:
And yet...
Manysome of those people have said Trump is superior to Biden and will be voting for Trump.Some have said they will vote for Biden
Some have not said
Some have said they will vote a third nameLike I said, I may or may not agree with their politics/policies, but I give their experience working side by side with President Trump credibility.
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Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.
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I don't see where it has receded. Morphed, perhaps, but not receded.
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@jon-nyc said in I love it when he takes me literally:
- Like the woke agenda? Vote
BidenTrump.
Wokeness exploded under Trump and has receded under Biden. If Trump is elected look for another big wave of wokeness from major institutions. Obviously not because Trump wants it but because he provokes it. He’s gasoline for the woke fire.
You can frame it that way. Or you could frame it like the woke backlash is the fault of those who catastrophize Trump, and so render everything opposite of him more virtuous. Words are tricky. Mostly I'm glad that now we can not only define wokeness, but we can also measure it.
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@Horace Absolve Trump from blame if you want, but the causal connection is the point. A Trump presidency brings more wokeness, not less.
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