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The "Doctor" will see you now.

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #18

    I think there’s a very important place for NPs. As our knowledge grows in so many fields of medicine, there’s been a greater need for specialization. As that continues to grow, so has the need to have more skilled service providers between the traditional nurse and specialist, but more and more autonomy and responsibility is being thrust upon these roles without subsequent education and training requirements.

    The Brad

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      I also worry that while NPs get a lot of the technical training necessary for the roles, they receive less of the ethical and moral training that comes with the years of schooling.

      The Brad

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      • George KG George K

        image.jpeg

        I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

        https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

        Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

        image.jpeg

        I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

        https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

        Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

        44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

          image.jpeg

          I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

          https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

          Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

          44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          @LuFins-Dad said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

          44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

          No idea what it's like now.

          But, I can tell you my curriculum from the dark ages.

          Gross Anatomy: 3 quarters.
          Neuro Anatomy: 1 quarter
          Biochemistry: 2 quarter
          Micro Anatomy (Histology): 2 quarters
          Pharmacology: 2 quarters
          Anatomy Lab (cadaver): 3 Quarters
          Physiology: 3 Quarters
          Psychology: 1 Quarter
          Physical Diagnosis: 1 quarter

          And then...you got to touch patients.

          Physical Diagnosis on real people: 2 quarters.

          And then you got to work in a hospital.

          Internal Medicine: 1 quarter (12 weeks) - you 'shadow' an intern
          Neurology: 6 weeks
          Psychiatry: 6 weeks
          Surgery: 12 weeks (1 week to anesthesiology)
          OB/GYN: 6 weeks
          Pets: 6 weeks.

          Then, you go to do electives, and internal medicine as a senior was required.
          I did 12 weeks of anesthesiology.

          I may have missed something, but that's the gist of it.

          I don't feel like wading through the current curriculum, but here it is:

          https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/md-education/curriculum/phases/index.html

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
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            image.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Offline
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              I’ll be seeing an NP at 4. Three weeks for this cough and drainage. Ugh.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                Hopefully s/he has more than 500 hours of training.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  #25

                  Actually I think they just have me seeing a PA.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
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                    #26

                    In the comments -

                    • 750 is 15 hrs/week for 1 year.
                    • 500 hours is 6 weeks of residency (probably more like 8 weeks, but still).

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                      My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

                      Which is concerning since the doctors were proctologists.

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                        #28

                        It never bothers me that much. I see specialists for serious things, if I go to a clinic it’s usually for something basic that I’d self-treat but for the need to prescribe drugs or imaging.

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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