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The "Doctor" will see you now.

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    How long is the FNP program and what kind of work happens during it? There might only be 6 days of classroom instruction but is there a mentorship program working with physicians in their current workplace?

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #15

      I’ve seen two NPs lately. I’m more concerned with their experience and general cognitive ability than their formal education. On average, NPs might be less than MDs in those areas, but any given NP might be good.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #16

        My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

        Please love yourself.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          image.jpeg

          I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

          https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

          Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            LuFins Dad
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            #18

            I think there’s a very important place for NPs. As our knowledge grows in so many fields of medicine, there’s been a greater need for specialization. As that continues to grow, so has the need to have more skilled service providers between the traditional nurse and specialist, but more and more autonomy and responsibility is being thrust upon these roles without subsequent education and training requirements.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              I also worry that while NPs get a lot of the technical training necessary for the roles, they receive less of the ethical and moral training that comes with the years of schooling.

              The Brad

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              • George KG George K

                image.jpeg

                I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                image.jpeg

                I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @George-K said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                  image.jpeg

                  I can't find the page that links this image, but here's a screenshot that I did find.

                  https://nursing.georgetown.edu/degree-programs/masters/fnp-online/

                  Screenshot 2024-04-11 at 9.36.10 AM.png

                  44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @LuFins-Dad said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                  44 credits… to become a practicing physician requires 150 postgrad credits, no? 1 semester of medical ethics course. How does that compare with medical school?

                  No idea what it's like now.

                  But, I can tell you my curriculum from the dark ages.

                  Gross Anatomy: 3 quarters.
                  Neuro Anatomy: 1 quarter
                  Biochemistry: 2 quarter
                  Micro Anatomy (Histology): 2 quarters
                  Pharmacology: 2 quarters
                  Anatomy Lab (cadaver): 3 Quarters
                  Physiology: 3 Quarters
                  Psychology: 1 Quarter
                  Physical Diagnosis: 1 quarter

                  And then...you got to touch patients.

                  Physical Diagnosis on real people: 2 quarters.

                  And then you got to work in a hospital.

                  Internal Medicine: 1 quarter (12 weeks) - you 'shadow' an intern
                  Neurology: 6 weeks
                  Psychiatry: 6 weeks
                  Surgery: 12 weeks (1 week to anesthesiology)
                  OB/GYN: 6 weeks
                  Pets: 6 weeks.

                  Then, you go to do electives, and internal medicine as a senior was required.
                  I did 12 weeks of anesthesiology.

                  I may have missed something, but that's the gist of it.

                  I don't feel like wading through the current curriculum, but here it is:

                  https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/md-education/curriculum/phases/index.html

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    image.jpeg

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #23

                      I’ll be seeing an NP at 4. Three weeks for this cough and drainage. Ugh.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        Hopefully s/he has more than 500 hours of training.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          Actually I think they just have me seeing a PA.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #26

                            In the comments -

                            • 750 is 15 hrs/week for 1 year.
                            • 500 hours is 6 weeks of residency (probably more like 8 weeks, but still).

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The "Doctor" will see you now.:

                              My NP is a shitload better than all the doctors at the practice.

                              Which is concerning since the doctors were proctologists.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #28

                                It never bothers me that much. I see specialists for serious things, if I go to a clinic it’s usually for something basic that I’d self-treat but for the need to prescribe drugs or imaging.

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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