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  • KlausK Klaus

    I wonder to which degree that is true. I'm sure somebody has done a comparison of down-scaling images and then up-scaling them with AI again.

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    @Klaus said in Film Camera Sales:

    I wonder to which degree that is true. I'm sure somebody has done a comparison of down-scaling images and then up-scaling them with AI again.

    Probably, but that's a little tricky because in a real world application, you'd never have that comparison handy. "Good enough to look good and hide what you did" might be better?

    Anyway, I've cropped the everloving crap out of some images, did the AI enhance and then printed them. They looked better than the ones that weren't enhanced and still had a bit of digital pixelation. But I've not done a comparison as I don't have a micro four thirds camera.

    Please love yourself.

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      Some pictures beg to be printed.

      When you want to print, what do y'all do?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Some pictures beg to be printed.

        When you want to print, what do y'all do?

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        @Jolly said in Film Camera Sales:

        When you want to print, what do y'all do?

        Print?

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          Mrs. Phibes bought a used digital SLR from Kenny years ago, and it still works well. We've printed out a few of them and framed them - they look fine.

          I was only joking

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            I literally just bought a polaroid camera, btw. Sure the film is like $2 per photo, but I went to an event with my 5 year old daughter the other day and someone took a photo of us. Man it was so nice to hold the physical photo, as imperfect as it is. Will be something I display/cherish forevah.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Some pictures beg to be printed.

              When you want to print, what do y'all do?

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              @Jolly said in Film Camera Sales:

              Some pictures beg to be printed.

              When you want to print, what do y'all do?

              Walgreens does a great job. Their website/app is very easy to use, cost is low, quality is perfect. Every time I print a photo there I feel grateful their services exist today.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                That chart is terribly misleading to the point of lying.

                Normies only use smartphones. They used to own a film camera because they had to. Now, only enthusiasts go in for them.

                But that enthusiast market is blowing up and has been for years.

                Do some price checking for E-100 or Portra 400. People are paying 10, 20, 40 a roll at a rate that can't keep up with demand. If you really want a heart attack, look up Aerochrome on eBay and remind yourself this shit is in fact being bought.

                Film camera sales are up, too, not down. By a lot. And they're expensive AF. Shitty point and shoots like Contax T2s are going for more than they were new.

                And don't get the market started on the Leica M6 or a Rolleiflex.

                View cameras are also blowing up.

                Not just photography, either. The same is going on with vinyl, traditional media painting and illustration, textiles, coffee, etc., etc. Normies left the market for "better" alternatives, some got sad because convenience created a shittier life experience, and so some of them return to help grow the enthusiast market.

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Film Camera Sales:

                That chart is terribly misleading to the point of lying.

                The most misleading part is that the first two camera categories literally... just take pictures. Smartphones take pictures, but also can do a billion other things, including make calls.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  I actually bought a (digital) camera just a month ago (Fuji X-S20). It reminded me how much better a good camera with proper lenses and flash is compared to even the best cell phone cameras.

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                  @Klaus said in Film Camera Sales:

                  I actually bought a (digital) camera just a month ago (Fuji X-S20). It reminded me how much better a good camera with proper lenses and flash is compared to even the best cell phone cameras.

                  I bought a 4K camcorder last year. I specifically got it so I could really zoom in at sporting events or plays or other things the kids participate in. I don't overdue it I and I hope to be diligent enough to put together a short video each year of what I've captured. I also use it each Christmas morning as they come down the stairs.

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                    I literally just bought a polaroid camera, btw. Sure the film is like $2 per photo, but I went to an event with my 5 year old daughter the other day and someone took a photo of us. Man it was so nice to hold the physical photo, as imperfect as it is. Will be something I display/cherish forevah.

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                    @89th said in Film Camera Sales:

                    I literally just bought a polaroid camera, btw. Sure the film is like $2 per photo, but I went to an event with my 5 year old daughter the other day and someone took a photo of us. Man it was so nice to hold the physical photo, as imperfect as it is. Will be something I display/cherish forevah.

                    Bad thing about Polaroids...They are bad about fading over time.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      My father-in-law worked as a section head at Ilford, a photographic film and chemicals manufacturer, in the 80's. He saw the writing on the wall a lot earlier than most people and got out while the going was good.

                      He said the state of denial that the film manufacturers were in at the time was quite frightening. Anybody could see what was coming, but a lot of them were sticking to the old ways right up until the wave hit.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        My father-in-law worked as a section head at Ilford, a photographic film and chemicals manufacturer, in the 80's. He saw the writing on the wall a lot earlier than most people and got out while the going was good.

                        He said the state of denial that the film manufacturers were in at the time was quite frightening. Anybody could see what was coming, but a lot of them were sticking to the old ways right up until the wave hit.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Film Camera Sales:

                        My father-in-law worked as a section head at Ilford, a photographic film and chemicals manufacturer, in the 80's. He saw the writing on the wall a lot earlier than most people and got out while the going was good.

                        He said the state of denial that the film manufacturers were in at the time was quite frightening. Anybody could see what was coming, but a lot of them were sticking to the old ways right up until the wave hit.

                        And yet Ilford has come back and is now making its first-ever color film. Supply was limited when released because demand was so high. Last year.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in Film Camera Sales:

                          I literally just bought a polaroid camera, btw. Sure the film is like $2 per photo, but I went to an event with my 5 year old daughter the other day and someone took a photo of us. Man it was so nice to hold the physical photo, as imperfect as it is. Will be something I display/cherish forevah.

                          Bad thing about Polaroids...They are bad about fading over time.

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                          @Jolly said in Film Camera Sales:

                          @89th said in Film Camera Sales:

                          I literally just bought a polaroid camera, btw. Sure the film is like $2 per photo, but I went to an event with my 5 year old daughter the other day and someone took a photo of us. Man it was so nice to hold the physical photo, as imperfect as it is. Will be something I display/cherish forevah.

                          Bad thing about Polaroids...They are bad about fading over time.

                          Good call. I'm swapping to Instax.

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