No Tipping
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Possibly a tad insecure
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Been two months without talking about this, so thought I would "stir the pot" a bit with a recent article. LOL
https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/surveys-tipping-culture-giving-way-to-tip-fatigue.html
...recent survey results that show a majority of U.S. consumers are fed up with the psychodrama over gratuities, with nearly 60 percent saying it's time for service industry business owners to increase worker pay so customers won't be expected to supplement it.
Fully 74 percent of respondents to a survey by personal finance company WalletHub reported feeling "tipping culture has gotten out of control," with 57 percent ascribing that to "businesses replacing employee salaries with tips."
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Had a late dinner at Olive Garden the other day. They have these tablets that you use to place the order, then they bring you your food and drink, check in on a refill of your drink, then you pay via the tablet.
This was not my bill, but a picture from online…
Suggested tip is 20%.
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I am still confused about when and why 20% became standard instead of 15%
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Is standard tip appropriate to ask for when there was no assistance in ordering and no assistance with paying? Servers are normally tipped for service including taking the orders (and possibly advising), bringing the food and drinks and being attentive to the customer, and bringing my bill and processing the transaction. 2 of the 4 were removed, and frankly the whole being attentive part is diminished when they aren’t taking your order and they aren’t collecting your money. It was essentially busing the table. What’s the appropriate percentage.
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You’ll notice in the picture that the tip was based on THE TOTAL, post tax! They even note it on the screen!
This is why tip fatigue is happening. I love to tip and tip well for good service. This is trying to trick me into tipping for poor service, and it’s removing that human contact we were talking about the other day.
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Had a late dinner at Olive Garden the other day. They have these tablets that you use to place the order, then they bring you your food and drink, check in on a refill of your drink, then you pay via the tablet.
This was not my bill, but a picture from online…
Suggested tip is 20%.
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I am still confused about when and why 20% became standard instead of 15%
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Is standard tip appropriate to ask for when there was no assistance in ordering and no assistance with paying? Servers are normally tipped for service including taking the orders (and possibly advising), bringing the food and drinks and being attentive to the customer, and bringing my bill and processing the transaction. 2 of the 4 were removed, and frankly the whole being attentive part is diminished when they aren’t taking your order and they aren’t collecting your money. It was essentially busing the table. What’s the appropriate percentage.
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You’ll notice in the picture that the tip was based on THE TOTAL, post tax! They even note it on the screen!
This is why tip fatigue is happening. I love to tip and tip well for good service. This is trying to trick me into tipping for poor service, and it’s removing that human contact we were talking about the other day.
@LuFins-Dad said in No Tipping:
Had a late dinner at Olive Garden the other day. They have these tablets that you use to place the order, then they bring you your food and drink, check in on a refill of your drink, then you pay via the tablet.
This was not my bill, but a picture from online…
Suggested tip is 20%.
- I am still confused about when and why 20% became standard instead of 15%
Then work in restaurants.
The shift happened once card payments became the norm. Cash tips aren't taxed (notice I didn't say shouldn't be taxed, they should. I said aren't because they aren't just about everywhere), but card tips are. The 5% covers that so the card doesn't result in lost wages for the employee.
- Is standard tip appropriate to ask for when there was no assistance in ordering and no assistance with paying?
It's complicated AF because of how these machines dole out the tips. For some places, those you talk to will never see a penny of that money.
Best thing to do is ask the person you'd rather have paid from your tip how the money works. I've never come across a situation in which they didn't tell me.
From there, make your best judgment. Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
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@LuFins-Dad said in No Tipping:
Had a late dinner at Olive Garden the other day. They have these tablets that you use to place the order, then they bring you your food and drink, check in on a refill of your drink, then you pay via the tablet.
This was not my bill, but a picture from online…
Suggested tip is 20%.
- I am still confused about when and why 20% became standard instead of 15%
Then work in restaurants.
The shift happened once card payments became the norm. Cash tips aren't taxed (notice I didn't say shouldn't be taxed, they should. I said aren't because they aren't just about everywhere), but card tips are. The 5% covers that so the card doesn't result in lost wages for the employee.
- Is standard tip appropriate to ask for when there was no assistance in ordering and no assistance with paying?
It's complicated AF because of how these machines dole out the tips. For some places, those you talk to will never see a penny of that money.
Best thing to do is ask the person you'd rather have paid from your tip how the money works. I've never come across a situation in which they didn't tell me.
From there, make your best judgment. Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
Dude, I always tip at least 20%. If I'm going to live in a barbarous society, I feel the least I can do is fit in with the natives.
Speaking of which, I've got some nice shiny beads going cheap if you're interested.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
Dude, I always tip at least 20%. If I'm going to live in a barbarous society, I feel the least I can do is fit in with the natives.
Speaking of which, I've got some nice shiny beads going cheap if you're interested.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
Dude, I always tip at least 20%. If I'm going to live in a barbarous society, I feel the least I can do is fit in with the natives.
Speaking of which, I've got some nice shiny beads going cheap if you're interested.
20% of the subtotal or the total including taxes?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Although if I were Phibes or TG I'd strongly suggest never getting the soup as a return customer.
Dude, I always tip at least 20%. If I'm going to live in a barbarous society, I feel the least I can do is fit in with the natives.
Speaking of which, I've got some nice shiny beads going cheap if you're interested.
20% of the subtotal or the total including taxes?
@LuFins-Dad said in No Tipping:
20% of the subtotal or the total including taxes?
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
If I'm honest, this is due more to laziness than generosity, as it's easy to calculate.
Anyway, tipping should be banned. In England they give you blowjobs at the table and drive you home afterwards if you tip more than 5%. And that's just the blokes. When you visit next year make sure you ask for a happy ending over dessert.
I was only joking
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@LuFins-Dad said in No Tipping:
20% of the subtotal or the total including taxes?
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
If I'm honest, this is due more to laziness than generosity, as it's easy to calculate.
Anyway, tipping should be banned. In England they give you blowjobs at the table and drive you home afterwards if you tip more than 5%. And that's just the blokes. When you visit next year make sure you ask for a happy ending over dessert.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
As for soup, I never eat the filthy stuff. I've heard about what Americans do to it.
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@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
As for soup, I never eat the filthy stuff. I've heard about what Americans do to it.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
Not nearly as funny as the fact that you can't tell I'm joking
I was only joking
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
Not nearly as funny as the fact that you can't tell I'm joking
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
Not nearly as funny as the fact that you can't tell I'm joking
No, I figured.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@taiwan_girl said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
The amount including tax. I didn't even know the other thing was an option.
Same. I did not know that the "etiquette" was to tip on the actual bill amount pre-tax.
So both of us have been overly generous, despite Aqua's attempts to smear us as no-nothing foreigners who need to mind our own damn business.
I find it really funny you take this issue so seriously.
Not nearly as funny as the fact that you can't tell I'm joking
No, I figured.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
No, I figured.
OK, my bad. I should probably have dropped this weeks ago.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
No, I figured.
OK, my bad. I should probably have dropped this weeks ago.
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
No, I figured.
OK, my bad. I should probably have dropped this weeks ago.
Well to be fair we have LD to thank for the necromancy this time.
Please love yourself.
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My door dasher just messaged me that my order, which I placed two minutes ago for El Pollo Loco, isn't ready yet, but not to worry, he'll wait there for it. I guess he's fishing for an extra tip, for the inconvenience of already being in the parking lot when I happened to place the order, and the order not being ready immediately. Well he's already getting $12.50, I think that's enough.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
No, I figured.
OK, my bad. I should probably have dropped this weeks ago.
Well to be fair we have LD to thank for the necromancy this time.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
No, I figured.
OK, my bad. I should probably have dropped this weeks ago.
Well to be fair we have LD to thank for the necromancy this time.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thread was dead as of January of this year, but then you posted the Olive Garden thing.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thread was dead as of January of this year, but then you posted the Olive Garden thing.
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thread was dead as of January of this year, but then you posted the Olive Garden thing.
Ah, no. @taiwan_girl resurrected it before I posted. It was her resurrection that inspired me to post my story.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thread was dead as of January of this year, but then you posted the Olive Garden thing.
Ah, no. @taiwan_girl resurrected it before I posted. It was her resurrection that inspired me to post my story.
@LuFins-Dad said in No Tipping:
@Aqua-Letifer said in No Tipping:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thread was dead as of January of this year, but then you posted the Olive Garden thing.
Ah, no. @taiwan_girl resurrected it before I posted. It was her resurrection that inspired me to post my story.
Gotcha.
