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Trump loses in NY

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

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    @Jolly said in Trump loses in NY:

    True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

    "You're an asshole, so we'll fine you more."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

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      @Jolly said in Trump loses in NY:

      True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

      That's an argument for removing remorse as a consideration from the criminal justice system.

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        @Jolly said in Trump loses in NY:

        True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

        "You're an asshole, so we'll fine you more."

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        @George-K said in Trump loses in NY:

        @Jolly said in Trump loses in NY:

        True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

        "You're an asshole, so we'll fine you more."

        I believe judges do this all the time. Show an attitude in court during sentencing? Ok, I'll add a few months or years. Usually there are sentencing guidelines/maximums but the judge can take the defendant's actions into account if they want to reduce the sentence.

        Sam here, I think the judge here applied the law fairly. Trump owes a certain amount of money based on his illegal gains, and now has to pay it back. Perhaps he would've had to pay less back if he acknowledged his crime, but like Jon said, he took a different strategy.

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          Oh, bullshit.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • 89th8 89th

            @George-K said in Trump loses in NY:

            @Jolly said in Trump loses in NY:

            True, but do want to base the fair application of law on pique?

            "You're an asshole, so we'll fine you more."

            I believe judges do this all the time. Show an attitude in court during sentencing? Ok, I'll add a few months or years. Usually there are sentencing guidelines/maximums but the judge can take the defendant's actions into account if they want to reduce the sentence.

            Sam here, I think the judge here applied the law fairly. Trump owes a certain amount of money based on his illegal gains, and now has to pay it back. Perhaps he would've had to pay less back if he acknowledged his crime, but like Jon said, he took a different strategy.

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            @89th said in Trump loses in NY:

            I believe judges do this all the time.

            TV show judges certainly do.

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              The judge actually stated that he showed no remorse and it was clear he would repeat the crime if given the opportunity. Therefore he made the damages punitive.

              This was Trumps decision. Clearly he was told what the legal implications of his political strategy would be and chose to proceed anyway.

              Now he’s finding out.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                Yes, one should not be angry when one is targeted for political persecution.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  I suppose that’s true also, but in Trump’s case the lesson is you should be contrite when facing sentences for your crimes.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    We usually read 2 books with the kids before bed. Sometimes if the kids aren't listening or doing something wrong, we'll take away one book, and we mention that the 2nd book will also be taken away if their attitude doesn't change. Sometimes the kids decide to dig in deeper and do something that causes the 2nd book to be lost. Our oldest kid is 5.

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                      https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-chess-trump-makes-mar-a-lago-worth-500-million-by-hanging-up-3-hunter-biden-paintings

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-chess-trump-makes-mar-a-lago-worth-500-million-by-hanging-up-3-hunter-biden-paintings

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump loses in NY:

                        https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-chess-trump-makes-mar-a-lago-worth-500-million-by-hanging-up-3-hunter-biden-paintings

                        The art of the deal!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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