Meanwhile, in Iowa...
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
Let's change sports briefly...In 1960, pro football saw its first 3000 yard passing season. Two of those QB's played in the initial season of the AFL - Jack Kemp and Tripucka. The other QB who had a 3000 yard season was a Pittsburgh reject who had latched on with the Colts after being cut. The Baltimore QB was Johnny Unitas.
At that point, the NFL was a much more talented league.
Three quarterbacks with 3000 yard seasons...But who was the best quarterback?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
Let's change sports briefly...In 1960, pro football saw its first 3000 yard passing season. Two of those QB's played in the initial season of the AFL - Jack Kemp and Tripucka. The other QB who had a 3000 yard season was a Pittsburgh reject who had latched on with the Colts after being cut. The Baltimore QB was Johnny Unitas.
At that point, the NFL was a much more talented league.
Three quarterbacks with 3000 yard seasons...But who was the best quarterback?
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
The Brad
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I watched Pete play down at the Cow Palace. I've seen her on tv, not in person. When she starts no-look passes behind her head, making shots from half-court and making lay-ups by dribbling the ball between guy's legs, I'll say she's as good.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Just Pete being The Pistol...Not how man shots he shoots with a hand in his face...
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See, you should be happy she broke his record! It gives you a chance to evangelize and spread the good word on Pete!
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@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I watched Pete play down at the Cow Palace. I've seen her on tv, not in person. When she starts no-look passes behind her head, making shots from half-court and making lay-ups by dribbling the ball between guy's legs, I'll say she's as good.
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
I watched Pete play down at the Cow Palace. I've seen her on tv, not in person. When she starts no-look passes behind her head, making shots from half-court and making lay-ups by dribbling the ball between guy's legs, I'll say she's as good.
No look passes
Link to video Link to video
Not quite half court, but…
Link to video
As for layups and dribbling balls between guys legs, I won’t be posting any videos, but I trust that she’s much better than Pete…
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
The Brad
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@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
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@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
Biology has not changed.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
Biology has not changed.
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@89th said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Iowa...:
Four years vs. three.
And she has a three-point line.
And how many thousands of other athletes didn’t beat the record in the same era? It’s still an accomplishment to celebrate, not try to diminish and explain away.
Clark has made over 500 three-point shots in her four year career. That's over 500 more points and an extra season to do it in.
So what? She also played Women’s Basketball, a sport that plays with much more defense and lower scoring games. They also played in different eras. There are any number of guys over the past 25 years that were one and done that would have beat the record if they had been required to play at least 3 years.
Different eras, different rules, different factors. Don’t try to diminish the girl’s accomplishment. It doesn’t diminish his…
I mean, she also plays against womenz, so that makes it easier, too.
A male athlete today is clearly stronger, faster, etc… over a female athlete today.
But a female athlete from today vs a male athlete from 60 years ago? Conditioning was different, strength training was different, and just general health was very different. A lot of Pete’s competition were heavy smokers and drinkers (to Pete’s credit, he could never abide cigarette smoking, though he did enjoy knocking a few back, but that was in the 80s when he was a pro, not college)…
A boy’s 14-16 AU team could probably beat a WNBA TEAM, but sending that WNBA team back to the 60s? I bet they would beat quite a few of the college teams…
Biology has not changed.
Men and women are both about 2” taller than they were in 1960. Average weight is up about 20lbs. Average strength has increased as well. That is biology, and it has changed.
Technology, education, and specialization has also changed. Today’s athletes have much better nutrition, training, conditioning, and endurance. That’s the simple truth. Athletes are faster, have more endurance, and better recovery than 50 years ago. Whether that’s enough to bridge the gap between men from 1970 and women today is an interesting question.
