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  • W Offline
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    Wim
    wrote on last edited by
    #48

    Shut up or...
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/jailed-kremlin-critic-urges-russians-not-to-give-up-after-navalny-death

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #49

      Nice. Like it would really be Navalny's body if she agreed.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #50

        Surprised they didn’t just cremate
        the body and show her the ashes.

        They are but one step removed from Stalin.

        Elbows up!

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #51

          image.jpeg

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            taiwan_girl
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            #52

            https://www.npr.org/2024/02/24/1233716587/alexei-navalny-body-russia-opposition-leader

            The body of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been handed over to his mother, a top aide to Navalny said Saturday on his social media account.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #53

              Navalny’s mother played it smart. She used a combination of existing laws regarding deceased persons and Orthodox Church traditions and practices to argue her case with the authorities. She was also not intimidated and went public. I suspect it was becoming too embarrassing for some at the top to manage.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #54

                Regardless of whether it’s hearsay, the plot continues to thicken.

                “In early February, [President Vladimir] Putin was given an offer to swap the FSB killer Vadim Krasikov, who is serving a prison term for murder in Berlin, for two American citizens and Alexei Navalny,” Maria Pevchikh, who chairs Navalny’s Anti-Corruption Foundation, said in a video statement.

                Full story:
                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/26/navalny-was-killed-ahead-of-planned-prisoner-swap-allies-say-a84248

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #55

                  I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #56

                    @Mik

                    Have not seen that. Do you recall the source?

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #57

                      ESSA News. Not sure how credible they are.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-intelligence-chief-confirms-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-s-natural-cause-of-death/ar-BB1iTpfv?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0f6159ee21be4924a6698449c49d76d9&ei=48

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #58

                        Kyiv Post reports the same. Since the quoted source is the Head of Ukrainian Intelligence, I wouldn’t write it off although I don’t know how Ukraine benefits from making it public. The statement was also spoken in connection to another possible Ukrainian attack on the Kerch Bridge.

                        In any case Navalny’s body and mind had been subject to ongoing abuse throughout his incarceration these past few years. A blood clot may very well have been the result of his prison living conditions and at the hands of his gaolers. I also doubt the efficacy of the routine prison medical attention he may or may not have been afforded during that time. In the end saying it was natural causes is probably moot.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #59

                          I can get behind that. An over abundance of vitamin K could help that along.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Darth Putin
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                            #60

                            Lock them up.

                            Lock them all up.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #61

                              President Trump, when asked ifif he blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

                              “I don’t know, but perhaps, I mean possibly, I could say probably. I don’t know,” Trump told Fox News host Howard Kurtz. “He’s a young man, so statistically he’d be alive for a long time. If you go by the insurance numbers, he’d be alive for another 40 years. So something happened that was unusual.”

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                                Horace
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                                #62

                                It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #63

                                  @Horace said in Navalny dead:

                                  It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

                                  It’s reassuring to finally find something that Trump doesn’t know more about than anybody else

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #64

                                    Intel suggests that Putin may not have ordered Navalny’s murder:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/27/us-intel-suggests-putin-may-not-have-ordered-navalny-death-in-prison-wsj-a84974

                                    In my mind whether or not Putin ordered him whacked is moot. Navalny died while in state custody. Putin owns that fact.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #65

                                      Implausible deniability.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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