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How's the culture war going to play out?

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  • Catseye3C Catseye3

    This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

    Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

    Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

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    @Catseye3 said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

    This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

    Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

    Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

    Welcome to the party. Some of us have screaming about this issue for a couple of years.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      No, don't go there, Jolly. That would not be accurate, either.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

        One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

        We can both be right you know.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

          One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

          We can both be right you know.

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          @jon-nyc said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

          One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

          We can both be right you know.

          The mean time between such events is orders of magnitude greater than the age of your country, if not your universe.

          I was only joking

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Depends on how the young folk think, I guess. I don't really know. I am led to believe that they have been pretty well indoctrinated by the left, but what do I know about young folk.

            The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

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            @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

            The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

            You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

            Elbows up!

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

              @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

              Mike Pence refused to be on the Republican ticket because Mr. Trump won't wear a mask.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

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                @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                  @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                  The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                  You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                  Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

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                  @Jolly said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                  If allowed......................

                  I have to disagree a bit with this. President Trump has moved the Republic Party to fit him, not the other way around. The party is very different than it was under the first President Bush, and I dont think that President Trump was "forced" to move in that direction. I will say about President Trump - he does not take advice from others very well.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                    @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                    The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                    You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                    Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

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                    @Jolly

                    Trump governs according to his reactive impulses of the moment. Nothing centrist, left or right about him.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                        Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                        Nor a fascist, right????

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                          Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.

                          Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.

                            Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.

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                            @Klaus said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                            Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.

                            Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.

                            I think populist was a designation at one time but that was before the me, me, me. I would edit your comment for his need to be right, society’s protocols be damned.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                              Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                              Nor a fascist, right????

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                              @Loki said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                              Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                              Nor a fascist, right????

                              I never said he was a fascist. If I remember correctly I said he was an annoying pillock. Possibly a pandering, annoying pillock.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Loki said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                                Nor a fascist, right????

                                I never said he was a fascist. If I remember correctly I said he was an annoying pillock. Possibly a pandering, annoying pillock.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes You've often said he was a twat, too.

                                Cats, in helpful mode

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Mr. Trump has been a patriot since the beginning.

                                  He likes the USA.

                                  Solid, right down the middle, no wavering, immovable patriot

                                  This is the gift he gave us.

                                  The rest is just noise.

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                                    I would agree that that is an important distinction. The left tries to make a deep shame for the country work into a framework of a love for the country but it doesn't really pass the sniff test. In an honest moment they'd say that they don't love the country but are trying to turn it into one they could love. That's fine. But let's not pretend they love the country as it is.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      I like sausages, but I don't fucking go on about it all the time and wear a hat with 'Sausages' written on it.

                                      In fact, I'd be a little suspicious of anybody who never stopped telling me about how his sausage was the greatest sausage in history, and how he was going to make sausage great again, and sold all these fucking hats. I'd think he was up to something, and quite possibly a bit of a twat, and might even be lying about the size of his sausage.

                                      I'd also question whether or not he disliked black pudding, and why he was never seen eating any.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        I'm commenting less about Trump's shenanigans and more about the underlying shame for one's country that the left's politics and messaging is based on.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          I have said for years that modern liberalism was a mental disease. Now that modern liberalism has fallen to its disease and the fungus it created has taken over, it has left a few victims who can't bring themselves to fully embrace their Marxist future but haven't quite figured out where their fellow liberals went. You can spot them easily - they've all congregated around the Bash Trump Pole. They can't quite go hard Left, they forgot where Center is, and to find some sense of safety of a group they try to imitate the sounds they hear the others around the pole making. One can only feel sorry for them, they just don't know where else to turn for comfort.

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