How's the culture war going to play out?
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@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.
@Jolly said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
If allowed......................
I have to disagree a bit with this. President Trump has moved the Republic Party to fit him, not the other way around. The party is very different than it was under the first President Bush, and I dont think that President Trump was "forced" to move in that direction. I will say about President Trump - he does not take advice from others very well.
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@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.
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Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
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Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
Nor a fascist, right????
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Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.
Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.
@Klaus said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.
Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.
I think populist was a designation at one time but that was before the me, me, me. I would edit your comment for his need to be right, society’s protocols be damned.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
Nor a fascist, right????
@Loki said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
Nor a fascist, right????
I never said he was a fascist. If I remember correctly I said he was an annoying pillock. Possibly a pandering, annoying pillock.
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@Loki said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.
Nor a fascist, right????
I never said he was a fascist. If I remember correctly I said he was an annoying pillock. Possibly a pandering, annoying pillock.
@Doctor-Phibes You've often said he was a twat, too.
Cats, in helpful mode
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I would agree that that is an important distinction. The left tries to make a deep shame for the country work into a framework of a love for the country but it doesn't really pass the sniff test. In an honest moment they'd say that they don't love the country but are trying to turn it into one they could love. That's fine. But let's not pretend they love the country as it is.
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I like sausages, but I don't fucking go on about it all the time and wear a hat with 'Sausages' written on it.
In fact, I'd be a little suspicious of anybody who never stopped telling me about how his sausage was the greatest sausage in history, and how he was going to make sausage great again, and sold all these fucking hats. I'd think he was up to something, and quite possibly a bit of a twat, and might even be lying about the size of his sausage.
I'd also question whether or not he disliked black pudding, and why he was never seen eating any.
I was only joking
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I have said for years that modern liberalism was a mental disease. Now that modern liberalism has fallen to its disease and the fungus it created has taken over, it has left a few victims who can't bring themselves to fully embrace their Marxist future but haven't quite figured out where their fellow liberals went. You can spot them easily - they've all congregated around the Bash Trump Pole. They can't quite go hard Left, they forgot where Center is, and to find some sense of safety of a group they try to imitate the sounds they hear the others around the pole making. One can only feel sorry for them, they just don't know where else to turn for comfort.
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I like sausages, but I don't fucking go on about it all the time and wear a hat with 'Sausages' written on it.
In fact, I'd be a little suspicious of anybody who never stopped telling me about how his sausage was the greatest sausage in history, and how he was going to make sausage great again, and sold all these fucking hats. I'd think he was up to something, and quite possibly a bit of a twat, and might even be lying about the size of his sausage.
I'd also question whether or not he disliked black pudding, and why he was never seen eating any.
@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
I like sausages, but I don't fucking go on about it all the time and wear a hat with 'Sausages' written on it.
Then we aren't going to elect you to promote sausages, forget it.
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Trump governs according to his reactive impulses of the moment. Nothing centrist, left or right about him.
@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
Trump governs according to his reactive impulses of the moment. Nothing centrist, left or right about him.
Study to show thyself approved.
Look at Trump's statements and political leanings before the presidential campaign, and look at what he has tried to do while in office.
