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How's the culture war going to play out?

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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

    Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

    Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
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      What I find so unsatisfying in this culture war is that the "centrists" have nobody they can vote for, almost no media that publishes their views, very little influence in general.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

        I was only joking

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          I don't see any mechanism by which we don't continue circling the drain. Trump wins, more violence because "that's what's called for." Biden wins, the violent will become more emboldened and we'll have a guy in office who will do anything to appease them.

          There's no way all of this doesn't escalate further. I have no idea what comes after that.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

          There's no way all of this doesn't escalate further. I have no idea what comes after that.

          War

          World War will resolve all

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          • RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
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            In our own way, we go the way of the British Empire.

            It's easy to destroy, much harder if not impossible to rebuild.

            Country goes far-left driven by the decades of indoctrination everyone has finally noticed in education, expansion of the BS studies in universities. Those that see the results down the road will shake their heads, and complain about lack of representation and leadership.

            And, the country, in terms of world influence and a "beacon of liberty" dies.

            Impossible to change the inertia.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

              Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

              Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

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                @LuFins-Dad https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/2489/bari-weiss-resigns-from-the-times

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  What's your prediction for the next few years?

                  How will the parties evolve?

                  How will the media evolve?

                  Who's going to win?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Klaus are you seeing this type of stuff in Germany as well? From what I'm seeing, it's happening in Britain.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

                    Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

                    Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

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                    @Catseye3 said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                    This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.

                    Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.

                    Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.

                    Welcome to the party. Some of us have screaming about this issue for a couple of years.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
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                      No, don't go there, Jolly. That would not be accurate, either.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                        One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

                        We can both be right you know.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                          One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

                          We can both be right you know.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @jon-nyc said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                          One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.

                          We can both be right you know.

                          The mean time between such events is orders of magnitude greater than the age of your country, if not your universe.

                          I was only joking

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            Depends on how the young folk think, I guess. I don't really know. I am led to believe that they have been pretty well indoctrinated by the left, but what do I know about young folk.

                            The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

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                            @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                            The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                            You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                              @Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.

                              Mike Pence refused to be on the Republican ticket because Mr. Trump won't wear a mask.

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                                You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

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                                @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                                You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                                Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                  @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                  The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                                  You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                                  Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

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                                  taiwan_girl
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                                  @Jolly said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                  If allowed......................

                                  I have to disagree a bit with this. President Trump has moved the Republic Party to fit him, not the other way around. The party is very different than it was under the first President Bush, and I dont think that President Trump was "forced" to move in that direction. I will say about President Trump - he does not take advice from others very well.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                    @Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                    The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.

                                    You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.

                                    Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.

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                                    @Jolly

                                    Trump governs according to his reactive impulses of the moment. Nothing centrist, left or right about him.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:

                                        Being all over the place doesn't make one a centrist.

                                        Nor a fascist, right????

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                                          Being "left" or "conservative" or "centrist" or even "fascist" requires one to have a certain model of how the world and humans work.

                                          Trump has no such model. His goal is to be admired, and he acts out his impulses to achieve that.

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