How's the culture war going to play out?
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 18:44 last edited by
What's your prediction for the next few years?
How will the parties evolve?
How will the media evolve?
Who's going to win?
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 18:46 last edited by
I don't see any mechanism by which we don't continue circling the drain. Trump wins, more violence because "that's what's called for." Biden wins, the violent will become more emboldened and we'll have a guy in office who will do anything to appease them.
There's no way all of this doesn't escalate further. I have no idea what comes after that.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 18:49 last edited by
Depends on how the young folk think, I guess. I don't really know. I am led to believe that they have been pretty well indoctrinated by the left, but what do I know about young folk.
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 18:52 last edited by Catseye3
This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.
Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.
Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 19:01 last edited by
What I find so unsatisfying in this culture war is that the "centrists" have nobody they can vote for, almost no media that publishes their views, very little influence in general.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 19:13 last edited by
One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.
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I don't see any mechanism by which we don't continue circling the drain. Trump wins, more violence because "that's what's called for." Biden wins, the violent will become more emboldened and we'll have a guy in office who will do anything to appease them.
There's no way all of this doesn't escalate further. I have no idea what comes after that.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 19:49 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
There's no way all of this doesn't escalate further. I have no idea what comes after that.
War
World War will resolve all
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 19:58 last edited by
In our own way, we go the way of the British Empire.
It's easy to destroy, much harder if not impossible to rebuild.
Country goes far-left driven by the decades of indoctrination everyone has finally noticed in education, expansion of the BS studies in universities. Those that see the results down the road will shake their heads, and complain about lack of representation and leadership.
And, the country, in terms of world influence and a "beacon of liberty" dies.
Impossible to change the inertia.
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This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.
Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.
Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 20:05 last edited by@Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.
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@Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.
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What's your prediction for the next few years?
How will the parties evolve?
How will the media evolve?
Who's going to win?
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This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.
Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.
Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 21:28 last edited by@Catseye3 said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
This resignation letter has really rattled my slats. I'd give anything to read an equally smart and articulate and persuasive counter message. What if she's overstating or otherwise misrepresenting? No good can come from our haring off in the wrong direction.
Assuming what she says is a true portent, then I think we're in extremely deep trouble.
Beyond that, I can't think of anything useful to say. I have this drumbeat in my head right now: We can't let the rabble win. We can't let these bloody halfwits terminate our long precious legacy in this filthily senseless fashion.
Welcome to the party. Some of us have screaming about this issue for a couple of years.
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wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 21:34 last edited by
No, don't go there, Jolly. That would not be accurate, either.
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One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 22:07 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.
We can both be right you know.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.
We can both be right you know.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 22:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
One half of the 'outspoken' part of the country considers me to be a libtard, the other half a capitalist sell-out.
We can both be right you know.
The mean time between such events is orders of magnitude greater than the age of your country, if not your universe.
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Depends on how the young folk think, I guess. I don't really know. I am led to believe that they have been pretty well indoctrinated by the left, but what do I know about young folk.
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
wrote on 14 Jul 2020, 22:55 last edited by Renauda@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
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@Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.
wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 00:24 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Catseye3 What resignation letter? I have been out of the loop today.
Mike Pence refused to be on the Republican ticket because Mr. Trump won't wear a mask.
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@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 12:27 last edited by@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.
wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 13:23 last edited by@Jolly said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
If allowed......................
I have to disagree a bit with this. President Trump has moved the Republic Party to fit him, not the other way around. The party is very different than it was under the first President Bush, and I dont think that President Trump was "forced" to move in that direction. I will say about President Trump - he does not take advice from others very well.
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@Renauda said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
@Horace said in How's the culture war going to play out?:
The presence of Trump is a magnetic repulser for people to say conservative things out loud. His absence will allow for more of that, especially if the leader of the right is a phenotype the left has obliged itself to listen to.
You may be correct. The brutal fact that Trump is not a conservative, has never been a conservative and could never be a conservative is finally coming to light because of all this nonsense. Conservatives - and I mean real conservatives of the Burkian school - have, with a few exceptions, been muted by the Demogogue and Chief's bluster and mayhem management regime. If true conservatives unite and push him out of the way there is a good chance reason will prevail. So long as he is on the scene insuring that conservatism is divided the pop culture Jacobins will write the agenda.
Trump is a centrist. Always has been. If allowed, he would govern just a bit to the right of Clinton and Bush 43.
