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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

    1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

    2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

    3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

    4. The physical threats to the candidates.

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    #28

    @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

    Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

    1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

    2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

    3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

    4. The physical threats to the candidates.

    1. No.
    2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
    3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
    4. Very concerning and highly likely.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    LuFins DadL 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

      An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

      MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #29

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

      I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

      An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

      I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

        I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

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        @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

        the black vote

        Where Trump has been making substantial gains.

        At least compared to other GOP candidates.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

          Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

          1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

          2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

          3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

          4. The physical threats to the candidates.

          1. No.
          2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
          3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
          4. Very concerning and highly likely.
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #31

          @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

          Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

          1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

          2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

          3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

          4. The physical threats to the candidates.

          1. No.
          2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
          3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
          4. Very concerning and highly likely.

          If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

            1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

            2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

            3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

            4. The physical threats to the candidates.

            1. No.
            2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
            3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
            4. Very concerning and highly likely.

            If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

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            wrote on last edited by
            #32

            @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

            1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

            2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

            3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

            4. The physical threats to the candidates.

            1. No.
            2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
            3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
            4. Very concerning and highly likely.

            If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

            i just don't think Manchin is running.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Mik

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

              I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

              An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

              I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #33

              @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

              I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

              An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

              I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

              Commerce secretary for Ramaswamy? High enough profile to give him some political street cred.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #34

                They should make Vivek Russian ambassador.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                  1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                  2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                  3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                  4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                  1. No.
                  2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                  3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                  4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                  If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

                  i just don't think Manchin is running.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  #35

                  @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                  Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                  1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                  2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                  3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                  4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                  1. No.
                  2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                  3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                  4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                  If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

                  i just don't think Manchin is running.

                  He’s waiting to see what Super Tuesday brings. If turnout is low, or if there is still some voter resistance to Trump and Biden, he’s a coming…

                  The Brad

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    They should make Vivek Russian ambassador.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #36

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                    They should make Vivek Russian ambassador.

                    You don’t think Israel would have him?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Here’s an interesting one, what about Fetterman running as an independent?

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                        I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

                        Commerce secretary for Ramaswamy? High enough profile to give him some political street cred.

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                        #38

                        @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                        @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                        I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

                        Commerce secretary for Ramaswamy? High enough profile to give him some political street cred.

                        I essentially said that here in August although I incorrectly referred to the portfolio as Industry rather than Commerce.

                        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/233559

                        Don’t think I hold that view any longer having seen his more of his performances and unappealing persona in the TV debates and such.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Here’s an interesting one, what about Fetterman running as an independent?

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          #39

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                          Here’s an interesting one, what about Fetterman running as an independent?

                          DOA, IMO.

                          But...If he continues to be a moderate, somewhat Blue Dawg Democrat, I could see 2028 run. As a Democrat.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                            Either way, looks like almost all DeSantis voters went to Nikki. Not a good sign for Trump’s enthusiasm base come November.

                            Good point.

                            OTOH, do you think DeSantis' base will vote for Sleepy Joe, or just resign themselves to another 4 years of destroying democracy and sit it out.

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                            #40

                            @George-K said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                            @89th said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                            Either way, looks like almost all DeSantis voters went to Nikki. Not a good sign for Trump’s enthusiasm base come November.

                            Good point.

                            OTOH, do you think DeSantis' base will vote for Sleepy Joe, or just resign themselves to another 4 years of destroying democracy and sit it out.

                            If NH is a test, independent voters said they were voting for Nikki, otherwise Joe in November. And DeSantis voters said they voted Nikki because…anti-Trump.

                            Honestly, Trump’s best hope is if Joe dies and Kamala has to lead the ticket. I could be wrong but I feel like I’m shouting the obvious into the GOP void. Guess we’ll wait until 2028 and hope there are nor SCOTUS deaths until then.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                              Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                              1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                              2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                              3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                              4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                              1. No.
                              2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                              3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                              4. Very concerning and highly likely.
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                              @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                              1. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.

                              Trump has such a sharp mind. And great intuitions. (Yes, I am 100% being sincere) It’s really hard to think of Biden running by November. He looks sooooooo fragile and old on TV.

                              Honestly, Trump might literally kill him in a debate. Rather, Biden might not survive that type of exercise.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                She is projected to lose big in SC, but who knows... her speech tonight is truth summarized so nicely. You might like Trump, but you can't ignore this analysis:

                                See 6:25:

                                Link to video

                                HALEY: With Donald Trump. Republicans have lost almost every competitive election. We lost the Senate. We lost the House. We lost the White House. We lost in 2018. We lost in 2020, and we lost in 2022. The worst-kept secret in politics is how badly the Democrats want to run against Donald Trump.

                                CROWD: Trump’s a loser! He’s a loser!

                                HALEY: They know Trump is the only Republican in the country who Joe Biden can defeat. You can’t fix the mess if you don’t win an election. A Trump nomination is a Biden win and a Kamala Harris presidency. I defeat Biden handily. With Donald Trump, you have one bout of chaos after another. This court case, that controversy, this tweet, that senior moment. You can’t fix Joe Biden’s chaos with Republican chaos.

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                                @89th said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                her speech tonight is truth summarized so nicely.

                                Dont know if this was in her speech, but one of her quotes after the primary was good and true. Something like,

                                "whichever party is the first to retire its' 80 year old candidate will win the election"

                                (Yes, I know that President Trump is not quite 80, but you get the point)

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      I figure she's hanging until Super Tuesday.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Figured she'd exit after losing her home state, but maybe she'll hang on as Trump goes bankrupt (for the 13th time).

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                                          It's all about Trump, eh?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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