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    Horace
    wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 03:32 last edited by
    #15

    Sounds about right. Though I’m not convinced Trump’s loss in the general is so likely. I don’t doubt Haley fares better in the general though.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • J Jolly
      24 Jan 2024, 03:18

      She's getting thumped by 15.

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      89th
      wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 03:33 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

      She's getting thumped by 15.

      Not all results are in, but it looks like most of DeSantis' voters went with Haley.

      Before he dropped out:

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      And tonight it looks like it's Trump 54% and Haley 44%.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 05:20 last edited by
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        I predict she loses by 15 in South Carolina. Nikki might make it to Super Tuesday, but I think she gets whipped pretty good across the board on that day.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          89th
          wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 13:01 last edited by
          #18

          I bet she loses by more than 15. Hard to stay in the race with a loss like than in her home state. Maybe she is playing the “what if Trump is jailed” card and staying in?

          Either way, looks like almost all DeSantis voters went to Nikki. Not a good sign for Trump’s enthusiasm base come November. Could be wrong.

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          • 8 89th
            24 Jan 2024, 13:01

            I bet she loses by more than 15. Hard to stay in the race with a loss like than in her home state. Maybe she is playing the “what if Trump is jailed” card and staying in?

            Either way, looks like almost all DeSantis voters went to Nikki. Not a good sign for Trump’s enthusiasm base come November. Could be wrong.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 13:04 last edited by
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            @89th said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

            Either way, looks like almost all DeSantis voters went to Nikki. Not a good sign for Trump’s enthusiasm base come November.

            Good point.

            OTOH, do you think DeSantis' base will vote for Sleepy Joe, or just resign themselves to another 4 years of destroying democracy and sit it out.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 13:06 last edited by
              #20

              Read the thread on the CNN exit interviews. Trump's vote was not just MAGA voters.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 13:13 last edited by
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                The funny thing about American elections is that for some reason they can't just have one election. There seems to be hundreds of them.

                And apparently every single one of them tells us something vital about what's going to happen in November.

                I was only joking

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 14:02 last edited by
                  #22

                  When you've lost Slate...

                  https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/01/new-hampshire-primary-results-nikki-haley-donald-trump.html

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
                    wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 14:08 last edited by
                    #23

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 14:51 last edited by
                      #24

                      Scott is going to get more than that (if Trump is reelected) and Hume knows it.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:00 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #25

                        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:21 last edited by
                          #26

                          Vivek should be press secretary.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:24 last edited by
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                            Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                            1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                            2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                            3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                            4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                            The Brad

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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              24 Jan 2024, 15:24

                              Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                              1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                              2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                              3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                              4. The physical threats to the candidates.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:43 last edited by
                              #28

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                              Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                              1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                              2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                              3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                              4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                              1. No.
                              2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                              3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                              4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                24 Jan 2024, 15:00

                                I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                                An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:50 last edited by
                                #29

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                                An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                                I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  24 Jan 2024, 15:50

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                  I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                                  An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                                  I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 15:55 last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                  the black vote

                                  Where Trump has been making substantial gains.

                                  At least compared to other GOP candidates.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    24 Jan 2024, 15:43

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                    Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                                    1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                                    2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                                    3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                                    4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                                    1. No.
                                    2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                                    3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                                    4. Very concerning and highly likely.
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 17:23 last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                    Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                                    1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                                    2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                                    3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                                    4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                                    1. No.
                                    2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                                    3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                                    4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                                    If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      24 Jan 2024, 17:23

                                      @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                      Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                                      1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                                      2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                                      3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                                      4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                                      1. No.
                                      2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                                      3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                                      4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                                      If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 17:29 last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                      @Jolly said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                      Guys, why are we even debating this? It’s over as far as the primaries go. The only questions remaining are:

                                      1. Will a viable independent option come forward?

                                      2. Will some type of shenanigans occur at either/both of the conventions?

                                      3. Will any of the legal cases wind up actually damaging either candidate? Georgia for Trump, and the Hunter trial for Biden. Not that Biden is in danger of jail, but enough could come out that the party decides they need somebody else.

                                      4. The physical threats to the candidates.

                                      1. No.
                                      2. Trump said he thought Biden would not be running in the fall. I think a lot of people have the same opinion. If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be at the convention.
                                      3. I'm going to crawl out on a limb and say no.
                                      4. Very concerning and highly likely.

                                      If Manchin were to run, perhaps with a moderate Republican with some chips in the electorate, it could make things interesting. If they pull 15%-20% from each party, it gets really interesting…

                                      i just don't think Manchin is running.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • M Mik
                                        24 Jan 2024, 15:50

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                                        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                                        I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 17:31 last edited by
                                        #33

                                        @Mik said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Nikki's Last Stand?:

                                        I don't think I can face 4 years of Vivek.

                                        An Asian woman in the UK commented that he was like Rishi Sunak's boastful cousin that nobody could stand who totally monopolised family get-togethers.

                                        I don't think Ramaswamy will be the VP. He's not well liked and my impression is his ambition exceeds his loyalty. trump will not trust him. Add in the black vote and it's Scott.

                                        Commerce secretary for Ramaswamy? High enough profile to give him some political street cred.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                        RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply 24 Jan 2024, 18:26
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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 24 Jan 2024, 17:42 last edited by
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                                          They should make Vivek Russian ambassador.

                                          I was only joking

                                          jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply 24 Jan 2024, 17:46
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