Trump's Taxes

[Renauda]

I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

[Catseye3]

@Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".

[Horace]

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

I would bet that Biden wins.

For those who think Trump will win, there are betting markets paying better than even money for that bet, as jon has noted.

[taiwan_girl]

People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nope

People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.

I agree with @Renauda

To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.

[Horace]

Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

@Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".

That's more a Stoic thing than a Buddhist thing.

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

Good point Horace. I guess I dont fully agree with him then. 555555

I think that things will continue to move on in a good way in the US.

[George K]

@Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

Who's he been talking to?

[Doctor Phibes]

My prediction is that the world will end right after Trump makes his tax returns public.

[Larry]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump's Taxes:

People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nope

People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.

I agree with @Renauda

To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.

No one said the sky would fall if Reagan was elected. I was there. Were you?
No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected. I was there. Were You?
No 9ne said the sky would fall I'd Clinton was elected. I was there. Were You?
No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected.
The sky did begin to fall when Obama was elected. We are seeing the results of his being in office right now. Just as you have agreed to already, these things do take time. But the root of all this racial tension and divisiveness got it's start because of Obama. Obama sold us out to China and globalism.

You're stuck in a narrative that doesn't hold water.

[Horace]

The left's fetishization of race began long before Obama. He did not help because he loved that messaging. It was an important failure on his part IMO. There are plenty of AA folk who do not love that permanent victim messaging though, some even in the Republican party, and it seems clear that the right's best move is to elect one.

[Renauda]

@Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years

On the contrary, the sun will shine for you and a few others here in a dozen or so years.

[Horace]

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

@Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years

On the contrary, the sun will shine for you and a few others here in a dozen or so years.

I don't understand enough of your prediction to know whether that's fair to say. How about you, what is your judgement about your predicted outcome?

[Renauda]

How I judge the outcome is of no consequence. Suffice to say though that unless my values radically change between now and then, I probably won't like it.

[Horace]

The important question is what would the viable alternative be. Not liking the best of the available choices is to be expected.

[Renauda]

You tell me, but it's what the rabble craves most. It would seem to me that at the moment that craving is well served by slogans of MAGA and Draining the Swamp. All things considered, slogans get the attention of the masses.

[Horace]

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

You tell me, but it's what the rabble craves most. It would seem to me that at the moment that craving is well served by slogans of MAGA and Draining the Swamp. All things considered, slogans get the attention of the masses.

I often suffer from a lack of personal acquaintance with the right wing rabble of which you and others speak. My life experience with politically unreasonable folk has been with the woke. They haven't always been called that, but they've always been around. Trump got in by the skin of his teeth with a general appeal that had to do with that distaste for the woke, more than "MAGA" and "draining the swamp", in my opinion. But American pop culture is moving away from even that aspect of his appeal. I don't think any Trump slogan or any right wing sloganeering will ever be more culturally powerful than the messaging of the left which has infected generations of minds, that the left is the Good side of an eternal Good vs Evil struggle, and you will never have to personally sacrifice for your simple act of teaming up with the Good.

[Renauda]

I have some acquaintance with the toiling rabble and at best find it only capable of attaining a trade union level of conciousness. Otherwise it is a reactionary mob in desperate need of direction and sound leadership.

[Horace]

There are reactionary mobs to go around aplenty. I know which ones I have personal experience with and observations of, and I know the direction of pop culture's inexorable shift.

[Renauda]

The current pop culture rumbling is nothing more than immaturity masquerading as enlightenment. Donkeys led by fools, if you like. The system will absorb and pacify as it always has in past.