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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #87

    The grownups in the room aren't the ones having trouble understanding this.

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

      That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.

      I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.

      And Rainman, can it not be that short overt events (like CHOP and the statues) give an erroneous impression of the time flying by? Maybe they don't, maybe they're accurate indicators. But especially with events like these, short, sharp, shocking, mightn't it take the ordinary, non-statue tossing citizen time to assimilate his outrage, or what passes for it, and react?

      I don't know. Just speculating.

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #88

      @Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

      @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

      That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.

      I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.

      Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

        @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

        That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.

        I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.

        Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on last edited by
        #89

        @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

        Could be twelve or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness. Contrary to what some people say, the US institutions remain firm.

        Thanks, Renauda. You have made my morning. This message redd by me whilst eating a French bread pizza, so the credit might have to be split.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

          @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

          That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.

          I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.

          Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.

          LarryL Offline
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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by
          #90

          @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

          @Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

          @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

          That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.

          I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.

          Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.

          Of course theyre fine right now. Wait 12 months into a Biden presidency and you'll have to sing a different tune.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by
            #91

            I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on last edited by
              #92

              @Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #93

                @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

                I doubt that Biden will win the November election.

                I would bet that Biden wins.

                For those who think Trump will win, there are betting markets paying better than even money for that bet, as jon has noted.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  #94

                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nope

                  People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.

                  I agree with @Renauda

                  To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #95

                    Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #96

                      @Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

                      @Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".

                      That's more a Stoic thing than a Buddhist thing.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

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                        #97

                        @Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

                        Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

                        Good point Horace. I guess I dont fully agree with him then. 555555

                        I think that things will continue to move on in a good way in the US.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

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                          @Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

                          Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

                          Who's he been talking to?

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #99

                            My prediction is that the world will end right after Trump makes his tax returns public.

                            I was only joking

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nope

                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.

                              I agree with @Renauda

                              To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.

                              LarryL Offline
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                              Larry
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #100

                              @taiwan_girl said in Trump's Taxes:

                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nope

                              People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.

                              I agree with @Renauda

                              To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.

                              No one said the sky would fall if Reagan was elected. I was there. Were you?
                              No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected. I was there. Were You?
                              No 9ne said the sky would fall I'd Clinton was elected. I was there. Were You?
                              No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected.
                              The sky did begin to fall when Obama was elected. We are seeing the results of his being in office right now. Just as you have agreed to already, these things do take time. But the root of all this racial tension and divisiveness got it's start because of Obama. Obama sold us out to China and globalism.

                              You're stuck in a narrative that doesn't hold water.

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                                #101

                                The left's fetishization of race began long before Obama. He did not help because he loved that messaging. It was an important failure on his part IMO. There are plenty of AA folk who do not love that permanent victim messaging though, some even in the Republican party, and it seems clear that the right's best move is to elect one.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.

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                                  #102

                                  @Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

                                  Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years

                                  On the contrary, the sun will shine for you and a few others here in a dozen or so years.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

                                    Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years

                                    On the contrary, the sun will shine for you and a few others here in a dozen or so years.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #103

                                    @Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

                                    @Horace said in Trump's Taxes:

                                    Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years

                                    On the contrary, the sun will shine for you and a few others here in a dozen or so years.

                                    I don't understand enough of your prediction to know whether that's fair to say. How about you, what is your judgement about your predicted outcome?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #104

                                      How I judge the outcome is of no consequence. Suffice to say though that unless my values radically change between now and then, I probably won't like it.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #105

                                        The important question is what would the viable alternative be. Not liking the best of the available choices is to be expected.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #106

                                          You tell me, but it's what the rabble craves most. It would seem to me that at the moment that craving is well served by slogans of MAGA and Draining the Swamp. All things considered, slogans get the attention of the masses.

                                          Elbows up!

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