Trump's Taxes
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People always get very over-excited in election years. I find it rather tiresome, to be honest.
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@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@taiwan_girl TG, As always, your comments are reasonable and rational, and I enjoyed reading them.
As do I. TG recognizes that the institutions which give the USA its strength continue to remain strong despite the outward polarization of populist sentiment. In the short term at least, I would agree with her. That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@taiwan_girl TG, As always, your comments are reasonable and rational, and I enjoyed reading them.
As do I. TG recognizes that the institutions which give the USA its strength continue to remain strong despite the outward polarization of populist sentiment. In the short term at least, I would agree with her. That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
Those institutional strengths have already been chipped away at for at lest 2 decades. And now we have one party that has, in order to pander for votes and put themselves back in power, aligned itself squarely with a far Left bunch or radicals who have openly declared war on every single one of these institutions, and have made it clear that should they win the presidency they fully intend to implement the full list of changes this radical Left is pushing. If they win it won't take 10 years, and it won't be a gradual change. They will instantly begin putting their policies in place. Our economy will collapse within a year. Once that happens, it will only be a matter of days or weeks before they will achieve their goal of "radically transforming America". We will be another Venezuela.
You don't have to listen if you don't want to, and you don't have to agree with me. But don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining, and don't ask me for food when yours (the generic yours) runs out.
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@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@taiwan_girl TG, As always, your comments are reasonable and rational, and I enjoyed reading them.
As do I. TG recognizes that the institutions which give the USA its strength continue to remain strong despite the outward polarization of populist sentiment. In the short term at least, I would agree with her. That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
And Rainman, can it not be that short overt events (like CHOP and the statues) give an erroneous impression of the time flying by? Maybe they don't, maybe they're accurate indicators. But especially with events like these, short, sharp, shocking, mightn't it take the ordinary, non-statue tossing citizen time to assimilate his outrage, or what passes for it, and react?
I don't know. Just speculating.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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But it's useful for the grownups in the room to remember that "hate" is a pretty loosy-goosey word. It has power, but only if there is common understanding as to what it means. Otherwise it's mostly just flapping your lips. I hate oatmeal. Do I hate it as much as child molesting? Well, no.
But boy, is it a handy pointer when you need it!
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@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
And Rainman, can it not be that short overt events (like CHOP and the statues) give an erroneous impression of the time flying by? Maybe they don't, maybe they're accurate indicators. But especially with events like these, short, sharp, shocking, mightn't it take the ordinary, non-statue tossing citizen time to assimilate his outrage, or what passes for it, and react?
I don't know. Just speculating.
@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.
Elbows up!
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@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
Could be twelve or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness. Contrary to what some people say, the US institutions remain firm.
Thanks, Renauda. You have made my morning. This message redd by me whilst eating a French bread pizza, so the credit might have to be split.
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@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:
That institutional strength will however begin to weaken in a decade or so should the present day split continue to grow and fester.
I'm curious as to how you settled on ten years, Renauda.
Could even be a dozen or so. Just won't be any time soon, despite the domestic restlessness and current federal inept leadership at both executive and legislature levels. Contrary to what some people say, US institutions remain firm.
Of course theyre fine right now. Wait 12 months into a Biden presidency and you'll have to sing a different tune.
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I doubt that Biden will win the November election.
Elbows up!
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@Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nopePeople say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.
I agree with @Renauda
To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.
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Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.
Education is extremely important.
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@Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".
@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:
@Renauda Right after I posted the above, I was reading about The Compassion Book, a compendium of Buddhist sayings intended to cultivate compassion and fearlessness. One of the sayings was, "Don't be swayed by external circumstances".
That's more a Stoic thing than a Buddhist thing.
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Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.
@Horace said in Trump's Taxes:
Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.
Good point Horace. I guess I dont fully agree with him then. 555555
I think that things will continue to move on in a good way in the US.
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Actually Renauda's prediction is that the sky will not fall this election but that it will in 12 years.
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My prediction is that the world will end right after Trump makes his tax returns public.
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People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nopePeople say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.
I agree with @Renauda
To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.
@taiwan_girl said in Trump's Taxes:
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Reagan elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Clinton elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Bush elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Obama elected - nope
People say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump elected - nopePeople say the sky will fall and the US will fall apart if President Trump reelected/Vice President Biden elected - i dont think so.
I agree with @Renauda
To me, the US system has a pretty good way of not letting things swing too far in one direction of the other.
No one said the sky would fall if Reagan was elected. I was there. Were you?
No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected. I was there. Were You?
No 9ne said the sky would fall I'd Clinton was elected. I was there. Were You?
No one said the sky would fall if Bush was elected.
The sky did begin to fall when Obama was elected. We are seeing the results of his being in office right now. Just as you have agreed to already, these things do take time. But the root of all this racial tension and divisiveness got it's start because of Obama. Obama sold us out to China and globalism.You're stuck in a narrative that doesn't hold water.
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The left's fetishization of race began long before Obama. He did not help because he loved that messaging. It was an important failure on his part IMO. There are plenty of AA folk who do not love that permanent victim messaging though, some even in the Republican party, and it seems clear that the right's best move is to elect one.
