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SBF/FTX

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #116

    Guilty.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #117

      Nice.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #118

        NYT: "The jury of nine men and three women began deliberating at 3:15 p.m. and was out for a little over four hours including dinner."

        Welp...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #119

          Sentencing should be interesting.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Sentencing should be interesting.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #120

            @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

            Sentencing should be interesting.

            March. Maybe he'll get more than the schoolteacher who raped a 14-year-old.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
              George KG Offline
              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #121

              Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 11.51.07 AM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #122

                image007.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
                  George KG Offline
                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #123

                  F_GawW8WkAAoOG7.jpeg

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    "FTX cryptocurrency exchange founder Sam Bankman-Fried is "subsisting on bread and water" because the federal jail where he is being held ahead of his fraud trial has not provided him with a vegan diet as he requested, his lawyer said on Tuesday."

                    LOL

                    https://www.reuters.com/legal/jailed-ftx-founder-bankman-fried-return-court-new-plea-2023-08-22/

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #124

                    @taiwan_girl said in SBF/FTX:

                    "FTX cryptocurrency exchange founder Sam Bankman-Fried is "subsisting on bread and water" because the federal jail where he is being held ahead of his fraud trial has not provided him with a vegan diet as he requested, his lawyer said on Tuesday."

                    LOL

                    https://www.reuters.com/legal/jailed-ftx-founder-bankman-fried-return-court-new-plea-2023-08-22/

                    He won't subsist on it long. Do you know what happens to a prisoner fed a diet of nothing but bread and water?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG Offline
                      George KG Offline
                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #125

                      Because names might get revealed?

                      image.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #126

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/sam-bankman-fried-sentenced-25-years-prison-orchestrating-ftx-fraud-rcna145286

                        Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced Thursday to 25 years in prison for his role in defrauding users of the collapsed cryptocurrency exchange FTX.

                        In a federal courtroom in lower Manhattan, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan called the defense argument misleading, logically flawed and speculative.

                        He said Bankman-Fried had obstructed justice and tampered with witnesses in mounting his defense — something Kaplan said he weighed in his sentencing decision.

                        Bankman-Fried, wearing a beige jailhouse jumpsuit, struck an apologetic tone, saying he had made a series of "selfish" decisions while leading FTX and "threw it all away."

                        "It haunts me every day," he said in his statement.

                        Prosecutors had sought as much as 50 years, while Bankman-Fried's legal team argued for no more than 6½ years. He was convicted on seven criminal counts in November and had been held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn since.

                        In a statement following Thursday's sentencing, Damian Williams, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said Bankman-Fried had orchestrated one of the largest frauds in financial history.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #127

                          More political prosecution. When will it end.

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #128

                            The ironic thing is that bankruptcy recovery looks like it will be 100%. Debt is trading at time value of money - betting when they’ll get it not if.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #129

                              This fact that they'll recover all the money, and SBF didn't lose it all after all, is not fitting easily into the public narrative.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #130

                                He invested customer money in solana and anthropic ai which have taken off

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #131

                                  It doesn’t change the fact that he invested much of it illegally. The ultimate success or failures of the investment are irrelevant to a fair extent.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #132

                                    Not at all. And for a time it was insolvent. But even if that had never happened, advertising segregated customer funds and then using them for investing is fraud. Even if it were to end up being ‘victimless’.

                                    (Ask the non-resident if you want confirmation)

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Not at all. And for a time it was insolvent. But even if that had never happened, advertising segregated customer funds and then using them for investing is fraud. Even if it were to end up being ‘victimless’.

                                      (Ask the non-resident if you want confirmation)

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #133

                                      @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                      Not at all. And for a time it was insolvent. But even if that had never happened, advertising segregated customer funds and then using them for investing is fraud. Even if it were to end up being ‘victimless’.

                                      (Ask the non-resident if you want confirmation)

                                      But… Does it impact the penalties? He got 25 years, prosecutors wanted 50, and Friedman’s attorneys wanted 6… If the sentencing occurred 5 months ago, would Friedman have gotten closer to the 50 years? If the crypto rally had started a month earlier and Solana went up another 100% and now the investors are showing profit, would the sentence be closer to 10?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #134

                                        Good question. I think he was hurt in sentencing by cheating on his terms of release.

                                        But I haven’t followed that closely.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #135

                                          Ken White’s podcast on the sentencing is called ‘Sam Bankmam Unfreed’

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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