The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition
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@Horace said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
I do see how her words can indicate a de-tribalization on her part.
The reason you know who she is is because she already de-tribalized in the summer of 2020. She quit in the aftermath of the young wokesters cashiering James Bennett and started a sub stack which (with SV funding) became the Free Press.
What you're witnessing now (perhaps) is her re-tribalization. Sometimes that happens, you know.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
she didn't just do that, she went on to say that 'We didn’t like the messenger, so we killed the message' but that isn't true in cases 2 and 3.
I'm comfortable with her contention that good ideas out of Trump were attacked, strictly due to the association. Whether they ultimately survived those attacks when they came to a vote, is a different question. The "we" she is referring to are presumably journalists, not elected officials.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
@Horace said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
I do see how her words can indicate a de-tribalization on her part.
The reason you know who she is is because she already de-tribalized in the summer of 2020. She quit in the aftermath of the young wokesters cashiering James Bennett and started a sub stack which (with SV funding) became the Free Press.
What you're witnessing now (perhaps) is her re-tribalization. Sometimes that happens, you know.
I'm aware of her history, and her visceral appreciation for free thinking and free speech. People differ in that regard.
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It’s always something.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
The reason you’re aware of her history is because she already de-tribalized in the summer of 2020.
What you're witnessing now (perhaps) is her re-tribalization. Sometimes that happens, you know.
The reason I'm aware of her history is because she lived that particular history. If she had not lived that particular history, I would not be aware of that particular history. Point granted.
Saying good and true things about Trump the politician, isn't necessarily a sign of tribalization. I would call it a detribalization, as tribalism often forces people to be selective about the positive things they say. A non-tribal person can give credit where it's due.
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It’s always something.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
@jon-nyc said in The Hypocrisy of the Progressive Left: Israel vs Hamas Edition:
You made me read the actual article. Jolly’s quote isn’t Bari, it’s an author she’s quoting about whom I know nothing.
It's partially Bari...
True but the specifics of what Horace and I were discussing (Bari's de- or re-tribalization) was based on things the guy said, not Bari.
