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"Rich Men North of Richmond"

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  • D Doctor Phibes
    5 Sept 2023, 19:27

    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

    @Doctor-Phibes said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

    You don't think they are in the arena because they have a production team? You don't think they've had to put things on the line? Taylor Swift writes her own stuff as far as I know.

    Of course they're in the arena. They play in fucking arenas. You can't get more literal than that.

    OK, you can argue that it's over-produced pablum, but really that's just your opinion.

    Of course it's only my opinion. But because you choose to be selective with what you like to remember about people, I'll refer you to what I said about that jackass who got famous for chugging an Ocean Spray bottle on a longboard.

    Always look for the cultural trends that defy sense. There are people far, far more talented than Swift or Spears who never get nearly that famous. Some of that's a little luck and timing, but some of it's what happens when you tap into something people feel they need. Quite fucking obviously Spears and Swift have done that.

    Like 89 saying he's got a whiny voice and you're saying don't be a critic unless you've done it yourself. So by that argument you can't criticize Taylor Swift until you've done what she's done.

    You inject yourself into this conversation, completely ignore my questions and then decide to speak for me with your own answers. You sure you need me at all for this? Looks like you're doing a fine job pointing out how silly your persona of me is.

    What do you mean by "done"? Write my own music and try to get a record contract? Absolutely correct, I have not done that.

    Make things for public consumption? Yeah, I've done that. Let's compare. Tell me what you've made and distributed, TODAY, and I'll tell you what I've made and distributed, today, then we'll see who's really in the arena and who isn't.

    I think you might have misunderstood the point I was attempting to make.

    You appeared to be telling 89 that he had no right to criticise the beardy bloke because he hadn't done this sort of thing himself. I just asked the question whether the same standard applied to people who criticise more commercially sophisticated ventures?

    Maybe I misunderstood your point.

    As far as me injecting myself into the conversation goes, OK, if you don't want somebody else butting into your public chastisement of 89, that's fine. I'll stop getting involved in what you considered to be a 2-way conversation. However if you really want a 2 way conversation, maybe a public message board isn't the best place to have it.

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    89th
    wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 02:46 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

    You appeared to be telling 89 that he had no right to criticise the beardy bloke because he hadn't done this sort of thing himself. I just asked the question whether the same standard applied to people who criticise more commercially sophisticated ventures?

    That’s how I read it too btw. All I said is I wasn’t a fan of the whiny first song and the 2nd song was pretty good but I didn’t care for the repetitive note structure. Guitar sounded nice though.

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      George K
      wrote on 6 Sept 2023, 11:38 last edited by
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      I take pride (?) in the fact that I've never listened to this song.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        6 Sept 2023, 11:38

        I take pride (?) in the fact that I've never listened to this song.

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        Ivorythumper
        wrote on 9 Sept 2023, 15:32 last edited by
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        @George-K

        You might listen to his interview with Jordan Peterson. Oliver Anthony is his stage name (which seems an odd choice), but he seems a lot more sophisticated than his angry, Appalachian, rebel yellin’ hillbilly trailer trash persona…. And a pretty deep soul.

        https://podcast.app/382-oliver-anthony-with-jordan-peterson-art-commerce-and-the-religious-e338644649/?utm_source=ios&utm_medium=share

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 00:46 last edited by
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          I give credit for standing up for his principles.

          https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-09-12/oliver-anthony-doesnt-want-you-to-buy-100-tickets-and-he-leaves-120k-on-the-table-to-prove-it

          Anthony had been booked to play Sept. 27 at Cotton Eyed Joe, a popular country music venue in Knoxville, Tenn. However, when the Virginia native on Monday caught wind of how much the tickets cost — $90 to $200 — he angrily pulled over to the side of the road with his “adrenaline pumping” and recorded a message to his fans, warning them not to buy the tickets.

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          • T taiwan_girl
            13 Sept 2023, 00:46

            I give credit for standing up for his principles.

            https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-09-12/oliver-anthony-doesnt-want-you-to-buy-100-tickets-and-he-leaves-120k-on-the-table-to-prove-it

            Anthony had been booked to play Sept. 27 at Cotton Eyed Joe, a popular country music venue in Knoxville, Tenn. However, when the Virginia native on Monday caught wind of how much the tickets cost — $90 to $200 — he angrily pulled over to the side of the road with his “adrenaline pumping” and recorded a message to his fans, warning them not to buy the tickets.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 11:23 last edited by
            #105

            @taiwan_girl said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

            I give credit for standing up for his principles.

            Or maybe investing in his brand?

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Mik
              wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 14:15 last edited by
              #106

              Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 14:20 last edited by
                #107

                Tell that to Monica Lewinsky.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 14:43 last edited by
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                  Feeling blue this morning?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 14:46 last edited by
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                    It’s something I need to a dress. I don’t want to be a stain on everyone’s fun here.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      13 Sept 2023, 14:46

                      It’s something I need to a dress. I don’t want to be a stain on everyone’s fun here.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 14:47 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                      It’s something I need to a dress. I don’t want to be a stain on everyone’s fun here.

                      Oh come on. Don't let that stop you.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        13 Sept 2023, 14:46

                        It’s something I need to a dress. I don’t want to be a stain on everyone’s fun here.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 15:51 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                        It’s something I need to a dress. I don’t want to be a stain on everyone’s fun here.

                        It depends on your definition…

                        The Brad

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 13 Sept 2023, 15:52 last edited by
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                          Spew alert!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            89th
                            wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 02:34 last edited by
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                            Doesn't Trump (and the rich folks around him) realize this is a song about them?

                            Link to video

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 02:39 last edited by
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                              That's the saddest thing I've seen all week.

                              I'm guessing that after The Psalms, that's his favourite song. Other than 'Macho Man', obviously.

                              I was only joking

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 15:08 last edited by
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                                https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/oliver-anthony-signs-agency-uta-1234829339/

                                Oliver Anthony, ‘Rich Men North of Richmond’ Singer, Finally Signs With an Agent

                                The viral songwriter joined UTA in Nashville

                                OLIVER ANTHONY — whose populist anthem “Rich Men North of Richmond” beat out superstars Taylor Swift, Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs, Olivia Rodrigo, and Gunna for the top spot on Billboard’s Hot 100 last month — has inked a deal with United Talent Agency (UTA).

                                UTA co-head of Nashville Jeffrey Hasson and music agent Curt Motley said in a statement that they are “honored to represent such an authentic artist, and excited to put together a global strategy to bring Oliver Anthony and his music to the people.”

                                The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson, who recently performed with Anthony at the birthday block party for Tootsie’s Orchid Lounge in Nashville.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 15:36 last edited by
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                                  They'll nip that authenticity in the bud. yessir, nip it in the bud.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    23 Sept 2023, 15:08

                                    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/oliver-anthony-signs-agency-uta-1234829339/

                                    Oliver Anthony, ‘Rich Men North of Richmond’ Singer, Finally Signs With an Agent

                                    The viral songwriter joined UTA in Nashville

                                    OLIVER ANTHONY — whose populist anthem “Rich Men North of Richmond” beat out superstars Taylor Swift, Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs, Olivia Rodrigo, and Gunna for the top spot on Billboard’s Hot 100 last month — has inked a deal with United Talent Agency (UTA).

                                    UTA co-head of Nashville Jeffrey Hasson and music agent Curt Motley said in a statement that they are “honored to represent such an authentic artist, and excited to put together a global strategy to bring Oliver Anthony and his music to the people.”

                                    The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson, who recently performed with Anthony at the birthday block party for Tootsie’s Orchid Lounge in Nashville.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 21:08 last edited by
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                                    @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                    The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson

                                    I don't know if it's me being out of touch, which obviously I am, but I have no idea who any of them are.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      23 Sept 2023, 21:08

                                      @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson

                                      I don't know if it's me being out of touch, which obviously I am, but I have no idea who any of them are.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 21:22 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes

                                      Jamey Johnson is pretty good.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        23 Sept 2023, 21:08

                                        @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                        The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson

                                        I don't know if it's me being out of touch, which obviously I am, but I have no idea who any of them are.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 22:52 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                        @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                        The agency’s portfolio includes Brittney Spencer, Megan Moroney, and Jamey Johnson

                                        I don't know if it's me being out of touch, which obviously I am, but I have no idea who any of them are.

                                        Same here.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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