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Trespassers can't hold office

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    Jolly
    wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 12:41 last edited by
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    Wonder if he has an appeal in federal court?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      89th
      wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 12:44 last edited by
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      Here's my question. Does a person need to be "charged, tried, convicted" for something to be used as basis for ruling? For example, there's plenty of evidence (note all the videos referenced in the filing) he organized groups and participated in the event.

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        89th
        wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 12:45 last edited by
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        I guess I found my own answer. This was addressed on Pages 42-43.

        tl;dr is this is a civil, not criminal, trial and Section Three of the 14th amendment doesn't require criminal convictions as a prerequisite for election eligibility.

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          89th
          wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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          I did chuckle at this paragraph near the opening:

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            7 Sept 2023, 12:44

            Here's my question. Does a person need to be "charged, tried, convicted" for something to be used as basis for ruling? For example, there's plenty of evidence (note all the videos referenced in the filing) he organized groups and participated in the event.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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            @89th said in Trespassers can't hold office:

            Here's my question. Does a person need to be "charged, tried, convicted" for something to be used as basis for ruling? For example, there's plenty of evidence (note all the videos referenced in the filing) he organized groups and participated in the event.

            I think you're guilty of insurrection.

            Good. Now you don't have to worry about ever running for elected office.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              89th
              wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 13:05 last edited by
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              I mean, if you were a judge and saw a video of me doing it, then I guess you're right.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 13:07 last edited by
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                You can't do that in my version of the United States. You cannot take away a person's rights without due process.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  89th
                  wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 13:57 last edited by
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                  It seems this is a civil matter so due process is being followed, no?

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                    7 Sept 2023, 13:57

                    It seems this is a civil matter so due process is being followed, no?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 14:22 last edited by
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                    @89th said in Trespassers can't hold office:

                    It seems this is a civil matter so due process is being followed, no?

                    If this is a civil and not a criminal matter, why is it being adjudicated in the context of federal elections.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 7 Sept 2023, 15:13 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jul 2023, 15:14
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                      This is as ridiculous a notion as saying the VP can choose to reject electors from certain states.

                      It’s quite a Trumpian move. Like a many such moves, it would be disastrous if were allowed to proceed.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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