"Rich Men North of Richmond"
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No country is perfect, and there are abuses of the system in the US by both the rich, middle class, and poor. A lot of it just lost perspective. In the US, it seems like the definition of poor is having to go from two streaming services down to one. LOL
But, I don't think that it is fair to "bash" the rich either. I don't think that anyone ever aspires to make less money. Sure, there are people who earn money the old fashioned way (they inherit it), but for most people, striving to do well is a goal. So, just because someone becomes rich is not a reason to look down on them.
For example, Bill Gates has given so much money to causes that is mind boggling. It is possible you may not agree with some of his donations, but holy cow, he is trying to do something with his money, AND at the same time, living a lifestyle that 99.999% of the population could only dream about.
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 14:49 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
No country is perfect, and there are abuses of the system in the US by both the rich, middle class, and poor. A lot of it just lost perspective. In the US, it seems like the definition of poor is having to go from two streaming services down to one. LOL
But, I don't think that it is fair to "bash" the rich either. I don't think that anyone ever aspires to make less money. Sure, there are people who earn money the old fashioned way (they inherit it), but for most people, striving to do well is a goal. So, just because someone becomes rich is not a reason to look down on them.
For example, Bill Gates has given so much money to causes that is mind boggling. It is possible you may not agree with some of his donations, but holy cow, he is trying to do something with his money, AND at the same time, living a lifestyle that 99.999% of the population could only dream about.
You do realize this is not an anti-rich song, per se?
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 14:52 last edited by
Secondly, let's talk about the U.S. standard of living...
I don't really care about the rest of the world (actually I do, but it is an unsolvable problem for us), I care about America. I want us to be the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world.
And once obtained, I do want us to maintain that spot.
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@89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Yeah the song struck a nerve no doubt. I just didn’t care for the yelling sound, and whiny misery lyrics have always sold well.
I would have thought you were quite used to whiny misery lyrics, you being from the south and all. Did they not listen to country music down in Stripmall Holler?
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Secondly, let's talk about the U.S. standard of living...
I don't really care about the rest of the world (actually I do, but it is an unsolvable problem for us), I care about America. I want us to be the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world.
And once obtained, I do want us to maintain that spot.
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 15:39 last edited by@Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.
Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.
I think the combination of wealth and power for sure makes the US #1, and I don't see any country in the near future coming close. But, it is always necessary to continue to move forward.
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@Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.
Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.
I think the combination of wealth and power for sure makes the US #1, and I don't see any country in the near future coming close. But, it is always necessary to continue to move forward.
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:04 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
@Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.
Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.
"You have no right to complain because look there's someone's worse over there" is a tired fallacy.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:06 last edited by
People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.
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People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:07 last edited by@Horace said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.
It's also pretty easy for those who don't live here to assume everyone has the same standard of living as the American assholes she talks to in online forums.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:34 last edited by
Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:38 last edited by
@Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.
Well, they aren't exactly Southern—they're the only state to secede from the Confederacy, after all—but they are Appalachian. Except they pronounce that in a way that you would probably consider offensive. -
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 16:54 last edited by
Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 17:01 last edited by
The people that pronounce Appalachia correctly are the same people that mispronounce Oregon. Yet, everyone that works at the Oreo cookie plant (even in Virginia) pronounces Oregon exactly right. Go ahead, try it: eat an Oreo cookie and say "Oregon." Works like magic.
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Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 17:16 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
LOL I like to remind Jolly from time to time that I was born and raised in the south. Gotta draw the line somewhere…
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 17:19 last edited by
@Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.
Show me your buckwheat cakes and then we'll see.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 17:24 last edited by
You chaps all look the same to me.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 17:44 last edited by
I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!
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I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!
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I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 18:24 last edited by LuFins Dad@89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general!
:pinchbridgeofnose:
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Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 18:33 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.
General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.
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@LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.
General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.
wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 19:03 last edited by@Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
@LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":
Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?
Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.
General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.
There are regions of Boston that are more southerner than Northern VA from 1980-2020…
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wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 19:23 last edited by
Shucks... North of Shreveport = Damnyankees.