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  • 89th8 89th

    Yeah the song struck a nerve no doubt. I just didn’t care for the yelling sound, and whiny misery lyrics have always sold well.

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    @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

    Yeah the song struck a nerve no doubt. I just didn’t care for the yelling sound, and whiny misery lyrics have always sold well.

    I would have thought you were quite used to whiny misery lyrics, you being from the south and all. Did they not listen to country music down in Stripmall Holler?

    Please love yourself.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      No country is perfect, and there are abuses of the system in the US by both the rich, middle class, and poor. A lot of it just lost perspective. In the US, it seems like the definition of poor is having to go from two streaming services down to one. LOL

      But, I don't think that it is fair to "bash" the rich either. I don't think that anyone ever aspires to make less money. Sure, there are people who earn money the old fashioned way (they inherit it), but for most people, striving to do well is a goal. So, just because someone becomes rich is not a reason to look down on them.

      For example, Bill Gates has given so much money to causes that is mind boggling. It is possible you may not agree with some of his donations, but holy cow, he is trying to do something with his money, AND at the same time, living a lifestyle that 99.999% of the population could only dream about.

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      @taiwan_girl said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

      No country is perfect, and there are abuses of the system in the US by both the rich, middle class, and poor. A lot of it just lost perspective. In the US, it seems like the definition of poor is having to go from two streaming services down to one. LOL

      But, I don't think that it is fair to "bash" the rich either. I don't think that anyone ever aspires to make less money. Sure, there are people who earn money the old fashioned way (they inherit it), but for most people, striving to do well is a goal. So, just because someone becomes rich is not a reason to look down on them.

      For example, Bill Gates has given so much money to causes that is mind boggling. It is possible you may not agree with some of his donations, but holy cow, he is trying to do something with his money, AND at the same time, living a lifestyle that 99.999% of the population could only dream about.

      You do realize this is not an anti-rich song, per se?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Secondly, let's talk about the U.S. standard of living...

        I don't really care about the rest of the world (actually I do, but it is an unsolvable problem for us), I care about America. I want us to be the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world.

        And once obtained, I do want us to maintain that spot.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

          Yeah the song struck a nerve no doubt. I just didn’t care for the yelling sound, and whiny misery lyrics have always sold well.

          I would have thought you were quite used to whiny misery lyrics, you being from the south and all. Did they not listen to country music down in Stripmall Holler?

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

          Stripmall Holler

          lol

          Education is extremely important.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Secondly, let's talk about the U.S. standard of living...

            I don't really care about the rest of the world (actually I do, but it is an unsolvable problem for us), I care about America. I want us to be the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world.

            And once obtained, I do want us to maintain that spot.

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            @Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.

            Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.

            I think the combination of wealth and power for sure makes the US #1, and I don't see any country in the near future coming close. But, it is always necessary to continue to move forward.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.

              Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.

              I think the combination of wealth and power for sure makes the US #1, and I don't see any country in the near future coming close. But, it is always necessary to continue to move forward.

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              @taiwan_girl said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

              @Jolly I do understand it is not an anti-rich song, but more anti government. Just a general comment on my side.

              Re: US standard of living. That is why I said about perspective.

              "You have no right to complain because look there's someone's worse over there" is a tired fallacy.

              Please love yourself.

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                People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.

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                  @Horace said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                  People’s feelings about their own status is always relative to their own country anyway. Maybe less so in the flattened world culture of the internet age.

                  It's also pretty easy for those who don't live here to assume everyone has the same standard of living as the American assholes she talks to in online forums.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.

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                      @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                      Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.

                      😄 Well, they aren't exactly Southern—they're the only state to secede from the Confederacy, after all—but they are Appalachian. Except they pronounce that in a way that you would probably consider offensive.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

                        The Brad

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                          The people that pronounce Appalachia correctly are the same people that mispronounce Oregon. Yet, everyone that works at the Oreo cookie plant (even in Virginia) pronounces Oregon exactly right. Go ahead, try it: eat an Oreo cookie and say "Oregon." Works like magic.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                            Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

                            LOL I like to remind Jolly from time to time that I was born and raised in the south. Gotta draw the line somewhere… 😉

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.

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                              @Jolly said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                              Yeah, but us Louisiana assholes are better than the West Virginia assholes.

                              Show me your buckwheat cakes and then we'll see.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                You chaps all look the same to me.

                                I was only joking

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                                  I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!

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                                    @89th

                                    I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general.

                                    His voice reminded me of Chris Stapleton’s intonation and style when he was with the Steeldrivers.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general. Jolly claimed I was born wealthy, which isn't true. I guess my dad could’ve recorded a song in the woods, in front of a deer stand, what a coincidence, complaining about taxes and fatties on welfare. Heck, the content isn’t untrue… but I guess he found a way to make money. The American dream!

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                                      @89th said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                      I also said I thought the song was whiny and yelly, but said I like folk music in general!

                                      :pinchbridgeofnose:

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                        Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

                                        Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.

                                        General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                          Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

                                          Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.

                                          General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.

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                                          @Copper said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in "Rich Men North of Richmond":

                                          Wait, did @89th really just try to claim he’s a southerner because he lived in Fairfax, VA?

                                          Half the buildings and most of the streets in Fairfax are named for southern heroes.

                                          General Lee marched his troops through Leesburg before crossing the Potomac to invade the north. Those guys certainly claimed to be southerners.

                                          There are regions of Boston that are more southerner than Northern VA from 1980-2020…

                                          The Brad

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