Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority"
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@Jolly said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
But a media blitz to Trumpify him is inevitable
Of course. As will any GOP frontrunner for the next decade or so.
I don't think smart people can be Trumpified.
Trump always said provocative, dumb shit that would disgust his opponents and then be explained as 4D chess by the Trump whisperers.
That won't happen with Vivek.
@xenon said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Jolly said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
But a media blitz to Trumpify him is inevitable
Of course. As will any GOP frontrunner for the next decade or so.
I don't think smart people can be Trumpified.
Trump always said provocative, dumb shit that would disgust his opponents and then be explained as 4D chess by the Trump whisperers.
That won't happen with Vivek.
He's already said how much he respects Trump, and he's said that Trump would be an advisor. There's no talking his way out of some degree of Trumpification. He's talked his way into it.
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Vivek is running for VP. And let’s face it, if Trump wins the election and loses in GA, that means the Presidency as the 25th will have to be invoked.
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The interesting question is what happens when VP Ramaswamy invokes the 25th because Trump can not actually run the office of President in jail.
Of course, there’s also the question of what Kemp decides…
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If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
Education is extremely important.
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@jon-nyc said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
Do you think he means it, or just considers it table stakes for the GOP primary?
I think he has some genuine respect for the job Trump did as president. The advisor stuff seems like empty talk.
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If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
What if the VP is the presidency?
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If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
Maybe at 38 he's running for cabinet secretary and a 30 year future in the GOP.
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That’s a very real possibility. I don’t see the Trumpers moving position, but Trump can’t legitimately run the Presidency from a Georgia jail. And let’s face it, he’s going to jail. So unless Kemp issues a pardon, that only leaves the 25th.
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If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
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@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
Sometimes a VP reluctantly accepts the call to serve.
@Copper said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
Sometimes a VP reluctantly accepts the call to serve.
It's also an easy story to tell. "Well I wasn't interested in being VP, but when the president asks you to serve your country...."
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Imaging the pressure on a GOP governor of GA if he gets convicted. Kemp might just ride it out, though.
@jon-nyc said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
Imaging the pressure on a GOP governor of GA if he gets convicted. Kemp might just ride it out, though.
Hence my “Kemp is having a helluva week “ post
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How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?@Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.
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@Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.
@LuFins-Dad said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.
That would require Trump publicly admitting to (1) losing all these court cases, (2) going to jail, (3) his inability to do the POTUS job. You think Trump will be willing to admit to any of those?
Even if that’s the plan, when do you think the Trump campaign will publicly say that that is the plan? When do you think would be the best (or “least bad”) time for a Presidential campaign to make such a public announcement? Before Iowa/New Hampshire primaries? Before South Carolina? Before Super Tuesday? After the the primary? At the national Republican Convention?
And imagine the campaign ads and talking points from Trump’s opponents after the Trump campaign announces such a plan!
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@LuFins-Dad said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
@Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.
That would require Trump publicly admitting to (1) losing all these court cases, (2) going to jail, (3) his inability to do the POTUS job. You think Trump will be willing to admit to any of those?
Even if that’s the plan, when do you think the Trump campaign will publicly say that that is the plan? When do you think would be the best (or “least bad”) time for a Presidential campaign to make such a public announcement? Before Iowa/New Hampshire primaries? Before South Carolina? Before Super Tuesday? After the the primary? At the national Republican Convention?
And imagine the campaign ads and talking points from Trump’s opponents after the Trump campaign announces such a plan!
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If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
@Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":
If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.
There's a first time for everything in politics.
