Trump to be indicted - again.
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Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:00 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
Evil, perhaps, but not an idiot.
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@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
Evil, perhaps, but not an idiot.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:06 last edited by@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
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@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:28 last edited by@Axtremus said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
1000 wives? Solomon was an idiot.
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:31 last edited by
Becoming a politician does show some questionable judgment. One will have one's life scrutinized and nearly every action criticized. For men, it seems like a great way to meet women of easy virtue. Why women wish to run for office is less understood.
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@Axtremus said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
1000 wives? Solomon was an idiot.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:33 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
1000 wives? Solomon was an idiot.
Yeah, and what about that split the baby bullshit? Huh? Abuser.
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Becoming a politician does show some questionable judgment. One will have one's life scrutinized and nearly every action criticized. For men, it seems like a great way to meet women of easy virtue. Why women wish to run for office is less understood.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 14:43 last edited by@kluurs said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Becoming a politician does show some questionable judgment. One will have one's life scrutinized and nearly every action criticized. For men, it seems like a great way to meet women of easy virtue. Why women wish to run for office is less understood.
Status seeking. Say what we will about the how everybody hates politicians, but within their day to day, they are treated as high status people by everybody they interact with, with all the privileges thereof.
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Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:06 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
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@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:08 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots. I might dislike them, I might disagree with them, but I certainly don't think anybody who disagrees with my own little personal way of doing things is an idiot.
I've never thought Trump was particularly smart, and he's clearly getting worse. He clearly thinks he's a freaking genius, and what he has is a gift for self-promotion. But smart? At this point?
Edit - I wasn't trying to reply to myself, but I'm an idiot too, so there you go.
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This is what happens when you spend most of your life surrounded by people telling you how awesome you are.
What an idiot.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:19 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
This is what happens when you spend most of your life surrounded by people telling you how awesome you are.
What an idiot.
I can think of at least a few people who told him that he was not awesome
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
This is what happens when you spend most of your life surrounded by people telling you how awesome you are.
What an idiot.
I can think of at least a few people who told him that he was not awesome
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:23 last edited by@Copper said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
I can think of at least a few people who told him that he was not awesome
Losers, to a man. Just ask him.
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@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:24 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
To be fair, we talk primarily about the questionable ones.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots. I might dislike them, I might disagree with them, but I certainly don't think anybody who disagrees with my own little personal way of doing things is an idiot.
I've never thought Trump was particularly smart, and he's clearly getting worse. He clearly thinks he's a freaking genius, and what he has is a gift for self-promotion. But smart? At this point?
Edit - I wasn't trying to reply to myself, but I'm an idiot too, so there you go.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:36 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
I've never thought Trump was particularly smart, and he's clearly getting worse. He clearly thinks he's a freaking genius, and what he has is a gift for self-promotion. But smart? At this point?
I actually think Trump is incredibly sharp. His memory is noteworthy, and he’s able to think very quickly which results in fun debate or press conference performances.
But indeed his obsession with ratings, winning, rankings, and media coverage has blinded him.
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 15:56 last edited by
Well, there you have it.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
I've never thought Trump was particularly smart, and he's clearly getting worse. He clearly thinks he's a freaking genius, and what he has is a gift for self-promotion. But smart? At this point?
I actually think Trump is incredibly sharp. His memory is noteworthy, and he’s able to think very quickly which results in fun debate or press conference performances.
But indeed his obsession with ratings, winning, rankings, and media coverage has blinded him.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 16:06 last edited by@89th said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
He clearly thinks he's a freaking genius
His IQ is above average.
For his race
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 16:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I bet that guy with the carbon fiber submarine had a high IQ, too.
Sure didn't stop him being an idiot.
An inability to accept advice you don't like from people who are more knowledgeable than you on a given subject can lead to problems....
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@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 18:14 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
Plenty of them on both sides aren't idiots.
Name three nationally known.
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wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 18:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill
(at least two of whom were assholes)
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BTW, he can wave the documents around as much as he wants or he can talk about them being secret. Neither is a violation.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 19:13 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
BTW, he can wave the documents around as much as he wants or he can talk about them being secret. Neither is a violation.
True waving it around wouldn’t make him guilty of sharing classified info.
But waving them around makes it clear that he possesses them which is illegal. The timing of the tape (after repeatedly telling the feds he doesn’t have them) establishes willfulness AND obstruction AND lying to the feds. And the confession that he could have declassified it but didn’t undermines his former claims that he had done so.
So yeah, this is enough to put the orange man in orange dress.
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@Axtremus said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
1000 wives? Solomon was an idiot.
wrote on 27 Jun 2023, 20:03 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Axtremus said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@George-K said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
Just as an exercise, have you ever considered any politician as something other than an idiot?
I don't think he considered Thatcher an idiot.
On whether one ever considers any politician as something other than an idiot, you can also throw in, say, Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or King Solomon.
1000 wives? Solomon was an idiot.
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1 Kings 4:29
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Do you consider Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan as something other than an idiot?
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@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
BTW, he can wave the documents around as much as he wants or he can talk about them being secret. Neither is a violation.
True waving it around wouldn’t make him guilty of sharing classified info.
But waving them around makes it clear that he possesses them which is illegal. The timing of the tape (after repeatedly telling the feds he doesn’t have them) establishes willfulness AND obstruction AND lying to the feds. And the confession that he could have declassified it but didn’t undermines his former claims that he had done so.
So yeah, this is enough to put the orange man in orange dress.
wrote on 28 Jun 2023, 11:22 last edited by@Jon said in Trump to be indicted - again.:
But waving them around makes it clear that he possesses them which is illegal.
The waved-around document is not part of the indictment.