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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Mother of 6-year-old who shot teacher pleads guilty to using marijuana while having a firearm

    The mother of a 6-year-old boy who shot his teacher in Virginia pleaded guilty in federal court Monday to using marijuana while possessing a firearm, which is illegal under U.S. law.

    The federal crime is facing increasing scrutiny as more states legalize the drug. But federal prosecutors in Virginia said Monday that such laws protect communities.

    Deja Taylor is accused of lying about her marijuana use on a form when she bought the gun, which her son later used to shoot Abby Zwerner in her classroom in Newport News. The first-grade teacher was seriously wounded and has endured multiple surgeries.

    Taylor’s attorneys agreed to a negotiated plea agreement with prosecutors that calls for a sentence of 18 months to 24 months in prison. Sentencing is scheduled for Oct. 18.

    There are other charges to be brought, on the non-federal level, against her. Improperly storing a firearm, child endangerment, to name a few.

    But it's nice to the the government charge someone with admitting to drug use when applying for a gun permit. Gotta keep the streets safe from these moms.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      But not from the VP's son...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        But not from the VP's son...

        JonJ Offline
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        Jon
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        @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

        But not from the VP's son...

        Yet, but it sounds like they’re coming.

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        • JonJ Jon

          @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

          But not from the VP's son...

          Yet, but it sounds like they’re coming.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Jon said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

          @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

          But not from the VP's son...

          Yet, but it sounds like they’re coming.

          And it only took....3 years?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Jon said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

            @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

            But not from the VP's son...

            Yet, but it sounds like they’re coming.

            And it only took....3 years?

            JollyJ Offline
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            @George-K said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

            @Jon said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

            @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

            But not from the VP's son...

            Yet, but it sounds like they’re coming.

            And it only took....3 years?

            The BATF and FBI had to read it. And investigate.

            These things take time, you know. Especially since the FBI was having to protect politicians (Clinton, Biden, et al.). They are very busy people down there in their butt-ugly building...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              The more interesting part of this case is how many warnings the school had that this kid had a gun. The kid had been showing it to classmates all day, and word had gotten all the way up to the principal, who did nothing. The theory goes, that schools are hesitant to punish black or brown kids, because systemic racism stats.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JonJ Offline
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                Jon
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                The FBI is chasing down an entire inbox worth of leads. They try to understand entire picture before they make any charges, they don’t just pause to charge on first evidence of a crime.

                By the way, did you hear the threat from Biden’s legal team that indicates they’re expecting the firearm charge?

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  Right now, I find it incredulous that anybody would defend the FBI. At least at the senior management level.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    The more interesting part of this case is how many warnings the school had that this kid had a gun. The kid had been showing it to classmates all day, and word had gotten all the way up to the principal, who did nothing. The theory goes, that schools are hesitant to punish black or brown kids, because systemic racism stats.

                    89th8 Offline
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                    89th
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                    @Horace said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

                    The more interesting part of this case is how many warnings the school had that this kid had a gun. The kid had been showing it to classmates all day, and word had gotten all the way up to the principal, who did nothing. The theory goes, that schools are hesitant to punish black or brown kids, because systemic racism stats.

                    Yup and the teacher is suing for tens of millions of bucks.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Right now, I find it incredulous that anybody would defend the FBI. At least at the senior management level.

                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      @Jolly said in Charged with lying on a gun owners application:

                      Right now, I find it incredulous that anybody would defend the FBI. At least at the senior management level.

                      I know plenty of folks there, you'd be surprised how boring and non-political/strategic it all is. It's all procedures and paperwork, and folks wearing suits while also armed. Even the building itself is boring, if not offensively so. Heck, that dude who was "fixing" the flag on the stage before Jack spoke? One of my top 3 friends, lol.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        Then tell the rank and file to start advocating for change, because right now, at least 60% of the country thinks they are political whores.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
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                          Yeah and like 40% of the country thought Trump won the election. The american people aren't exactly reliable bunch lately.

                          [Ax] They should perform an independent audit of the DOJ's political whore-ism. [/Ax]

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                            Jolly
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                            In politics, perception is reality.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by Horace
                              #14

                              The leftist mind virus has infiltrated institutions and businesses, to the extent that if you want to get ahead on the status ladder, you have to think and say the right things politically. One does not have to think too hard, to be able to predict the sorts of things people will think and say, as they live in those environments. It's a peculiarity of the human mind, that we end up believing, and feeling, that the socially advantageous received ideas, are the true ideas. 89th, based on what you know of the FBI, how would a Trump supporter be thought of there? Could one safely be an outspoken Trump supporter, like one could obviously be an outspoken Trump hater? If the answer to that is no, how about extending that to being an outspoken Republican?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                It was a "Workplace Injury."

                                https://www.denverpost.com/2023/05/03/educators-outraged-teacher-shot-in-school-workplace-injury/

                                The Newport News Education Association President condemned the premise of the school division’s motion to dismiss Abigail Zwerner’s pending $40 million lawsuit.

                                The motion was filed last week by attorneys representing the School Board and argues that Zwerner, who was shot in her classroom at Richneck Elementary in January by a 6-year-old student, is only entitled to file a worker’s compensation claim because the injury she sustained from the shooting is a “workplace injury,” and that the shooting was a hazard of the job.

                                James Graves, the president of the Newport News teachers union, says that argument is “ridiculous.”

                                “This is not military, this is not the police department. This is an education system,” Graves said in an interview Wednesday.
                                In a Facebook statement posted Tuesday, Graves said, “These lawyers have started a significant hurricane in our district by saying that being shot is part of what teachers signed up for.”

                                Such statements, he said, are “a slap in our faces.”

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/04/us/newport-news-virginia-teacher-shooting-lawsuit/index.html

                                  The $40 million lawsuit filed by Newport News teacher Abigail Zwerner against the school board and administrators after she was shot by a 6-year-old student in a classroom earlier this year can move forward, a Virginia judge ruled Friday.

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    However negligent you thought the asst principal was, she was more negligent than that.

                                    Link to video

                                    Education is extremely important.

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