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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @George-K Interesting article.

    One of the things in the headline and I think that @jolly has brought up when talking about what is believed to be positives for Presdient Trump is the # of judges done by him.

    It is interesting that President Biden has actually appointed MORE judges than President Trump at equal times of their president cycle

    "President Joe Biden is outpacing his predecessor in the number of federal judge appointees installed during his tenure.

    As of Sept. 20, Biden had notched 83 federal judges confirmed by the Senate. At this point in his presidency, Donald Trump had 69 appointees confirmed, according to NBC News. If continued at this pace, Biden is on track to beat Trump's historic number of appointees."

    That could obvisouly slow down if the Republicans win the Senate.

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    @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    @George-K Interesting article.

    One of the things in the headline and I think that @jolly has brought up when talking about what is believed to be positives for Presdient Trump is the # of judges done by him.

    It is interesting that President Biden has actually appointed MORE judges than President Trump at equal times of their president cycle

    "President Joe Biden is outpacing his predecessor in the number of federal judge appointees installed during his tenure.

    As of Sept. 20, Biden had notched 83 federal judges confirmed by the Senate. At this point in his presidency, Donald Trump had 69 appointees confirmed, according to NBC News. If continued at this pace, Biden is on track to beat Trump's historic number of appointees."

    That could obvisouly slow down if the Republicans win the Senate.

    There's a reason for that, but that's another thread.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/21/trump-values-voter-wing-gop-00093175

      The headline is:
      Trump killed the ‘values voter’ wing of the GOP. It isn’t coming back in 2024.
      On the eve of a Christian cattle call in Iowa, the two 2024 contenders who talk the most about their faith aren’t gaining traction.

      Largely by the 'values voters' they are talking about the Evangelicals. The gist of it is that, since Trump came along, the Evangelicals care less about the candidate's faith and more about the candidate fighting their cultural wars.

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        Former Attorney General Barr

        https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3990804-barr-trump-will-deliver-chaos-and-horror-show/

        “If you believe in his policies, what he’s advertising as his policies, he’s the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them,” Barr said of Trump at an event in Cleveland. “He does not have the discipline.”

        When pressed further, Barr claimed his former boss doesn’t have “the ability for strategic thinking” or “setting priorities.”

        “It is a horror show when he’s left to his own devices,” Barr said. “And so, you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.”

        “He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be,” he added.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          Former Attorney General Barr

          https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3990804-barr-trump-will-deliver-chaos-and-horror-show/

          “If you believe in his policies, what he’s advertising as his policies, he’s the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them,” Barr said of Trump at an event in Cleveland. “He does not have the discipline.”

          When pressed further, Barr claimed his former boss doesn’t have “the ability for strategic thinking” or “setting priorities.”

          “It is a horror show when he’s left to his own devices,” Barr said. “And so, you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.”

          “He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be,” he added.

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          @taiwan_girl

          IMG_7450.jpeg

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Also Barr:

            “Who did I want determining the direction of the Supreme Court for years to come: Trump or Hillary Clinton? The question was not close. On this basis alone, I would crawl over broken glass to the polls to vote for Trump.

            Once Trump won the nomination, the media, after fawning over him during the primaries, suddenly discovered his character flaws, which they now suggested made him unfit for office. I did not know enough about him to make firm judgments about all aspects of his character, but I did not see anything at the time I felt disqualifying. The country should aspire to elect leaders of high moral character, to be sure. But the significance of a candidate’s moral strengths and weaknesses has to be judged in relation to all the other attributes that person would bring to the office in the context of the time in which he’s running—together with his policy views and leadership skills. In our age, the electorate seems to put less stock in character, as I learned sadly when it replaced George H. W. Bush with Bill Clinton. Many of our past leaders, including some idolized by the Left even today, are known to have had deep moral failings. Trump certainly had his share of them.

            One important point, though, was that those failings were not as hidden as they usually are in political leaders. In Trump’s case, the failings were close to the surface—mostly on full display. Trump was not as much two-faced as full-on frontal: what you saw is pretty much what you got. Many people have attributed his flaws to a deep narcissism. This would not surprise me—it is a common malady in our age, especially among celebrities, political and otherwise.”

            Excerpt From
            One Damn Thing After Another
            William P. Barr

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393

              Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393

                Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.

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                @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393

                Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.

                Trump's views on Ukraine are very disappointing, but not exactly surprising. I guess he's stopped trying to be like Churchill and decided to emulate his predecessors instead.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393

                  Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.

                  Trump's views on Ukraine are very disappointing, but not exactly surprising. I guess he's stopped trying to be like Churchill and decided to emulate his predecessors instead.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  But Trump says he knows both Zelensky and Putin.

                  Bar none, Trump is beyond any doubt, the self appointed and declared Winston Wolf of the world’s political scene:

                  Link to video

                  Elbows up!

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                    Most of this thread could have been written 8 years ago.

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                      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/michigan-republicans-change-2024-nomination-process-may-boost-trump-2023-06-11/

                      Republicans in Michigan approved a proposal on Saturday to select more than two-thirds of their state delegates for the party's 2024 presidential nomination via caucus meetings, a change that could help party front-runner Donald Trump.

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                        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/michigan-republicans-change-2024-nomination-process-may-boost-trump-2023-06-11/

                        Republicans in Michigan approved a proposal on Saturday to select more than two-thirds of their state delegates for the party's 2024 presidential nomination via caucus meetings, a change that could help party front-runner Donald Trump.

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                        @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/michigan-republicans-change-2024-nomination-process-may-boost-trump-2023-06-11/

                        Republicans in Michigan approved a proposal on Saturday to select more than two-thirds of their state delegates for the party's 2024 presidential nomination via caucus meetings, a change that could help party front-runner Donald Trump.

                        Appears that those in charge may be secretly Democrats, and know that the best chance for the Democrats to win the president in 2024 is to have Pres. Trump be the nominee.

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                          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/18/chris-christie-republican-loyalty-oath-trump-00102536

                          The GOP's loyalty oath, the pledge by the candidates to support the eventual nominee, the message seems to be "because Trump broke it the last time, we're not going to take it seriously this time."

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                            https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/06-27-2023/is-he-the-strongest/

                            House Speaker Kevin McCarthy openly questions whether Trump would be the "strongest candidate" the GOP can field.

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                              https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/07/kevin-mccarthy-endorsement-trump-00105001?cid=apn

                              McCarthy declines to endorse Trump — looking to avoid a GOP civil war
                              The peace might be short-lived, but the speaker's members understand why he's not offering a formal endorsement to Donald Trump.
                              ...

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                                Sen Cassidy of Louisiana

                                " ‘I might have to write’ a Republican in if Trump is GOP’s 2024 nominee"

                                Link to video

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                                  Bullshit.

                                  I get the feeling this will be Bill's last round in Washington.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-breaks-mccarthy-republicans-government-shutdown-rcna117192

                                    Trump is working against the Republican Speaker of the House by calling for a government shutdown:

                                    “The Republicans lost big on Debt Ceiling, got NOTHING, and now are worried that they will be BLAMED for the Budget Shutdown. Wrong!!! Whoever is President will be blamed,” Trump wrote, adding: “UNLESS YOU GET EVERYTHING, SHUT IT DOWN! Close the Border, stop the Weaponization of ‘Justice,’ and End Election Interference.”

                                    And Trump keeps insulting the Senate Republican leader:

                                    “It’s time Republicans learned how to fight!” Trump wrote. “Are you listening Mitch McConnell, the weakest, dumbest, and most conflicted 'Leader' in U.S. Senate history?”

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                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-breaks-mccarthy-republicans-government-shutdown-rcna117192

                                      Trump is working against the Republican Speaker of the House by calling for a government shutdown:

                                      “The Republicans lost big on Debt Ceiling, got NOTHING, and now are worried that they will be BLAMED for the Budget Shutdown. Wrong!!! Whoever is President will be blamed,” Trump wrote, adding: “UNLESS YOU GET EVERYTHING, SHUT IT DOWN! Close the Border, stop the Weaponization of ‘Justice,’ and End Election Interference.”

                                      And Trump keeps insulting the Senate Republican leader:

                                      “It’s time Republicans learned how to fight!” Trump wrote. “Are you listening Mitch McConnell, the weakest, dumbest, and most conflicted 'Leader' in U.S. Senate history?”

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                                      @Axtremus Has that hurt President Trump previously? He insults people, insults their wives, parents, belittle them, belittle their work, etc etc, and yet most of the Republicans dont have the spine to stand up to him.

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                                        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/former-speaker-paul-ryan-republicans-lose-donald-trump-103514088

                                        Former House Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday that Republicans will lose the presidential election if Donald Trump is the nominee

                                        Ryan said in the small number of swing states, including Wisconsin, the election will come down to winning over suburban voters.
                                        “Do you think those suburban voters like Donald Trump more since Jan. 6?" Ryan said. "I mean, good grief. They didn’t vote for him this last time, they’re not going to vote for him again.”

                                        Kind of my thinking. The middle voters are the ones that are going to decide the election. They didn't vote for President Trump last time, and I don't think he has done anything to change their mind so far.

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                                          https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/18/gop-party-house-speaker-00122371

                                          Paul Ryan on why the GOP cannot unite, with Trump in the middle of it.

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