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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #1685

    Indeed, it appears to be a special military operation of some sort. It is certainly ramping up Russian paranoia and hysteria:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65696731

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/23/how-are-pro-kremlin-figures-responding-to-the-belgorod-incursion-a81246

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #1686

      It's much easier to ignore goings on in someone else's yard.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #1687

        Putin and maps...

        https://glavcom.ua/publications/velikij-konfuz-malenkoho-kartohrafa-putina-929447.html

        Also on CNN via Youtube

        Dumb-dumber-(fill in whatever suits you) 🥴

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #1688

          I'm thinking that's not going to pluck anyone's emotional strings.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1689

            @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

            https://glavcom.ua/publications/velikij-konfuz-malenkoho-kartohrafa-putina-929447.html

            Wanna go back a few centuries? Have at it.

            alt text

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #1690

              If Putin wants to look at old maps he should have a look at one or two from more recent history that would show his Kaliningrad enclave belonging to the Germany. It was called East Prussia.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by
                #1691

                Putin’s expertise in historical geography is leading to mirthful memes:

                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/24/putins-antique-map-stunt-stirs-meme-storm-a81260

                Elbows up!

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1692

                  I still maintain that Ragnar Lothbrok has a greater claim on Rus than Putin has on Ukraine.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #1693

                    Vilnius and Warsaw have the strongest claims after the Varangians. Prior to that for all we know it could have been the Huns and Khazars.

                    Putin’s claim is a best tenuous, but then so was Henry Tudor’s claim to the English throne.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1694

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainians-claim-to-have-destroyed-large-russian-warship-in-berdiansk/ar-AA1bHpzO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=75e0c85711214e11bcb276bcae939c0b&ei=21

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1695

                        Storm Shadow...

                        https://eurasiantimes.com/its-official-ukrainian-su-24-fencer-fighter-jets-are-launchin/

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1696

                          Russia's 'conditions for peace.'


                          The deputy to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said “Ukraine must”:

                          • Refuse to join NATO and the EU
                          • Commit to a ‘neutral, non-aligned status’
                          • End the resistance of its Armed Forces
                          • Cease the supply of Western weapons
                          • Recognize the ‘new territorial realities’ (Moscow’s euphemism for the illegal occupation of Ukrainian lands)
                          • Make Russian a state language ‘at the legislative level’

                          He also characterized Russia’s genocidal war of aggression against Ukraine as “the realization of the right of peoples to self-determination”, co-opting decolonialist language from the United Nations.

                          Read also: Russia abandons several villages in Belgorod Oblast, Russian partisans now fighting in Moscow Oblast – HUR
                          While these positions are obviously unacceptable to Ukraine – even before the thousands of war crimes Russia has committed against Ukrainians – Galuzin listed them as conditions “for achieving a comprehensive, just, and lasting peace.”

                          Galuzin claimed that the Kremlin has not changed the initial goals of its criminal war, falsely labeling them as "protecting the residents of Donbas, demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine, and eliminating threats to Russia's security that originate from its territory."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #1697

                            All Lavrov needed to say was there was one condition. Unconditional surrender of Ukrainian sovereignty to the Russian Federation.

                            Long winded, bastard.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1698

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1699

                                I suspect Putin has Lukashenko's successor picked.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1700

                                  I wonder if he's been "Litvinenko'ed".

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    I wonder if he's been "Litvinenko'ed".

                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1701

                                    @George-K

                                    Or maybe Putinolini made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1702

                                      Drones hit Moscow buildings


                                      Russia is blaming Ukraine for launching a drone attack on Moscow early Tuesday which reportedly left two people injured and several buildings damaged, a rare incident in the Russian capital after months of war.

                                      While incidents in Moscow are uncommon, residents in Kyiv have faced 17 airstrikes this month. There was a Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian capital overnight, which officials said killed at least one person.

                                      At least three residential buildings in Moscow were damaged by drones on Tuesday, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported, citing emergency services and residents.

                                      Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there were no serious injuries reported from the aerial assault, which caused “minor damage” and emergency services were on the scene.

                                      Ukraine has denied direct involvement with Tuesday’s drone attack on Moscow.

                                      There have been a handful of incidents within Russian territory since Moscow launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor last February, with most of the fighting taking place inside Ukraine.

                                      Earlier this month, two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were destroyed over the Kremlin in a murky attack that Russia blamed on Kyiv and claimed was an attempt to target Russian President Vladimir Putin. Kyiv forcefully denied the allegation.

                                      On Tuesday, Russia’s Ministry of Defense said Kyiv was also at fault for what it called a “terrorist attack” that involved eight aircraft-type UAVs which were shot down or diverted earlier in the morning.

                                      “All enemy UAVs were destroyed,” the defense ministry said in a statement. “Three of them were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets.

                                      “Another five UAVs were shot down by the Pantsir-S surface-to-air missile system in the Moscow region,” it added.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Drones hit Moscow buildings


                                        Russia is blaming Ukraine for launching a drone attack on Moscow early Tuesday which reportedly left two people injured and several buildings damaged, a rare incident in the Russian capital after months of war.

                                        While incidents in Moscow are uncommon, residents in Kyiv have faced 17 airstrikes this month. There was a Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian capital overnight, which officials said killed at least one person.

                                        At least three residential buildings in Moscow were damaged by drones on Tuesday, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported, citing emergency services and residents.

                                        Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there were no serious injuries reported from the aerial assault, which caused “minor damage” and emergency services were on the scene.

                                        Ukraine has denied direct involvement with Tuesday’s drone attack on Moscow.

                                        There have been a handful of incidents within Russian territory since Moscow launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor last February, with most of the fighting taking place inside Ukraine.

                                        Earlier this month, two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were destroyed over the Kremlin in a murky attack that Russia blamed on Kyiv and claimed was an attempt to target Russian President Vladimir Putin. Kyiv forcefully denied the allegation.

                                        On Tuesday, Russia’s Ministry of Defense said Kyiv was also at fault for what it called a “terrorist attack” that involved eight aircraft-type UAVs which were shot down or diverted earlier in the morning.

                                        “All enemy UAVs were destroyed,” the defense ministry said in a statement. “Three of them were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets.

                                        “Another five UAVs were shot down by the Pantsir-S surface-to-air missile system in the Moscow region,” it added.

                                        CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1703

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Ukraine has denied direct involvement

                                        It was probably the same people who masterminded the Nord Stream pipeline affair.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by George K
                                          #1704

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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