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We've reached a new peak of new cases

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 15:58 last edited by
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    So the 7 day rolling average of new cases is now higher than it's ever been

    Screen Shot 2020-06-25 at 11.52.44 AM.png

    The good news is deaths until quite recently were still dropping, even as cases leveled off, and they still haven't started rising yet. Part of this is timing, for sure, but I suspect it's also true that the most vulnerable are still maintaining lockdown-style behaviors so they're not getting hit as much as in the spring.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 15:59 last edited by
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      Oh and testing. Seeing an increase in positive rates.

      Screen Shot 2020-06-25 at 11.52.54 AM.png

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:14 last edited by
        #3

        That big uptick in new cases covering the last week is worrying

        I was only joking

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        • J jon-nyc
          25 Jun 2020, 15:58

          So the 7 day rolling average of new cases is now higher than it's ever been

          Screen Shot 2020-06-25 at 11.52.44 AM.png

          The good news is deaths until quite recently were still dropping, even as cases leveled off, and they still haven't started rising yet. Part of this is timing, for sure, but I suspect it's also true that the most vulnerable are still maintaining lockdown-style behaviors so they're not getting hit as much as in the spring.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:18 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

          The good news is deaths until quite recently were still dropping, even as cases leveled off, and they still haven't started rising yet. Part of this is timing, for sure, but I suspect it's also true that the most vulnerable are still maintaining lockdown-style behaviors so they're not getting hit as much as in the spring.

          Probably also because the cases are spread out to more parts of the country, not concentrated in a few areas served only by a few hospital systems. E.g., more manageable to have 1000 patients spread out over 100 hospital systems than to have 800 patents all concentrated in 12 hospital systems.

          The healthcare systems are also better prepared to deal with COVID-19 today than they were three months ago.

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            Mik
            wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:20 last edited by Mik
            #5

            I am still hearing PPE is too short. I find it rather incredible that no one has stepped up to take advantage of the opportunity and that he administration has not remedied that. It seems a relatively simple thing to do.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              89th
              wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:49 last edited by
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              Can someone please check the poop tubes (sewer) to see if it predicted the uptick?

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                Loki
                wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:52 last edited by
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                No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                it was wall to wall on TV news.

                Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                Never ever forget that.

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                • L Loki
                  25 Jun 2020, 16:52

                  No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                  it was wall to wall on TV news.

                  Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                  Never ever forget that.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:53 last edited by
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                  @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                  No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                  it was wall to wall on TV news.

                  Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                  Never ever forget that.

                  Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    25 Jun 2020, 16:53

                    @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                    No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                    it was wall to wall on TV news.

                    Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                    Never ever forget that.

                    Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 17:24 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                    @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                    No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                    it was wall to wall on TV news.

                    Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                    Never ever forget that.

                    Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)

                    The former head of the CDC tweeted as such as well as another clinical leader. The news more than implicitly endorsed it.

                    It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump. If people believe that it is systemic bias which is just as dangerous as systemic anything else.

                    Rhetoric that passes as truth makes for impossible real conversation.

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                    • L Loki
                      25 Jun 2020, 17:24

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                      @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                      No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.

                      it was wall to wall on TV news.

                      Now the news is telling us to be scared.

                      Never ever forget that.

                      Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)

                      The former head of the CDC tweeted as such as well as another clinical leader. The news more than implicitly endorsed it.

                      It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump. If people believe that it is systemic bias which is just as dangerous as systemic anything else.

                      Rhetoric that passes as truth makes for impossible real conversation.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 17:38 last edited by
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                      @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                      It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.

                      Why do you think they do that?

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 17:45 last edited by
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                        Because Trump is orange garbage?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          25 Jun 2020, 17:38

                          @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                          It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.

                          Why do you think they do that?

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 19:12 last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                          @Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                          It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.

                          Why do you think they do that?

                          Because he contributes to the problem by not wearing a mask. Believe me it’s a huge issue in my book and he deserves to excoriated for it. That said I won’t get behind that thought when the other elephant in the room is not acknowledged.

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                            25 Jun 2020, 17:45

                            Because Trump is orange garbage?

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 19:12 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Horace said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                            Because Trump is orange garbage?

                            The reasoning behind that is not at all homogeneous.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 22:27 last edited by
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                              The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                25 Jun 2020, 22:27

                                The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 22:46 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                                The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.

                                In my neck of the woods, it's all Trump's demo. But the groups you mentioned aren't at all present, so there's that.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 22:58 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Loki - drive a couple hours west.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 00:23 last edited by
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                                    We extended Phase 2 another 28 days. No surprise, as people are absolutely non-compliant.

                                    That ain't Trump's fault. It ain't John Bell Edwards' fault, either. No politician can fix stupid.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 00:27 last edited by
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                                      Chicago went to Phase 4 this week. Let's see how long it lasts.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly
                                        26 Jun 2020, 00:23

                                        We extended Phase 2 another 28 days. No surprise, as people are absolutely non-compliant.

                                        That ain't Trump's fault. It ain't John Bell Edwards' fault, either. No politician can fix stupid.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 00:51 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:

                                        We extended Phase 2 another 28 days. No surprise, as people are absolutely non-compliant.

                                        That ain't Trump's fault. It ain't John Bell Edwards' fault, either. No politician can fix stupid.

                                        Trump’s refusal to talk about masks rationally is the final nail in his election coffin. He runs the risk of an electoral disaster.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 26 Jun 2020, 01:55 last edited by
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                                          If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.

                                          Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.

                                          If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.

                                          He would be ridiculed by all sides.

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