We've reached a new peak of new cases
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@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.
it was wall to wall on TV news.
Now the news is telling us to be scared.
Never ever forget that.
Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)
@Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.
it was wall to wall on TV news.
Now the news is telling us to be scared.
Never ever forget that.
Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)
The former head of the CDC tweeted as such as well as another clinical leader. The news more than implicitly endorsed it.
It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump. If people believe that it is systemic bias which is just as dangerous as systemic anything else.
Rhetoric that passes as truth makes for impossible real conversation.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
No worries when we were told it was our duty to protest.
it was wall to wall on TV news.
Now the news is telling us to be scared.
Never ever forget that.
Why do you personally think that was the message? (I believe I know the answer, but I'm curious as to what you think.)
The former head of the CDC tweeted as such as well as another clinical leader. The news more than implicitly endorsed it.
It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump. If people believe that it is systemic bias which is just as dangerous as systemic anything else.
Rhetoric that passes as truth makes for impossible real conversation.
@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.
Why do you think they do that?
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@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.
Why do you think they do that?
@Aqua-Letifer said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
@Loki said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
It’s all our fault that cases are rising yet the news always wants to pin it on Trump.
Why do you think they do that?
Because he contributes to the problem by not wearing a mask. Believe me it’s a huge issue in my book and he deserves to excoriated for it. That said I won’t get behind that thought when the other elephant in the room is not acknowledged.
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@Horace said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
Because Trump is orange garbage?
The reasoning behind that is not at all homogeneous.
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The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.
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The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.
@LuFins-Dad said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
The vast majority of the people I see out and about without masks are 20 somethings of all races, middle aged African American women, and Hispanics of all ages and sex. It’s not exactly Trump’s demo so I’m not sure how much he has to do with it.
In my neck of the woods, it's all Trump's demo. But the groups you mentioned aren't at all present, so there's that.
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We extended Phase 2 another 28 days. No surprise, as people are absolutely non-compliant.
That ain't Trump's fault. It ain't John Bell Edwards' fault, either. No politician can fix stupid.
@Jolly said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
We extended Phase 2 another 28 days. No surprise, as people are absolutely non-compliant.
That ain't Trump's fault. It ain't John Bell Edwards' fault, either. No politician can fix stupid.
Trump’s refusal to talk about masks rationally is the final nail in his election coffin. He runs the risk of an electoral disaster.
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If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.
Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.
If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.
He would be ridiculed by all sides.
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I thought he was supposed to be a germaphobe?
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If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.
Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.
If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.
He would be ridiculed by all sides.
@Copper said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.
Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.
If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.
He would be ridiculed by all sides.
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It's not just the mask. He sends out mixed messages on a regular basis. His advisors are saying one thing, the next minute he's Tweeting 'Free Minneapolis'.
To provide leadership in this type of crisis, you need to provide a very clear message, and you need to sound as though you take it seriously, not fuck around making stupid jokes. This is the defining event of his Presidency. It's not his fault, and he clearly didn't want it be this way, but he needed to behave like a serious person, and clearly echo the advice of the experts, rather than undermine them.
Oh yeah - holding a big rally in the middle of a pandemic is just fucking stupid.
No, the media has not been fair to him at all. But he's also made it easy for them.
I still think he'll win in November, incidentally.
I was only joking
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It's not just the mask. He sends out mixed messages on a regular basis. His advisors are saying one thing, the next minute he's Tweeting 'Free Minneapolis'.
To provide leadership in this type of crisis, you need to provide a very clear message, and you need to sound as though you take it seriously, not fuck around making stupid jokes. This is the defining event of his Presidency. It's not his fault, and he clearly didn't want it be this way, but he needed to behave like a serious person, and clearly echo the advice of the experts, rather than undermine them.
Oh yeah - holding a big rally in the middle of a pandemic is just fucking stupid.
No, the media has not been fair to him at all. But he's also made it easy for them.
I still think he'll win in November, incidentally.
@Doctor-Phibes said in We've reached a new peak of new cases Oh yeah - holding a big rally in the middle of a pandemic is just fucking stupid.
Yeah, Woodstock was a pretty dumb idea.
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Seeing Hendrix play live might just be worth the risk. Seeing Trump, not so much.
YMMV, obviously.
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It's not just the mask. He sends out mixed messages on a regular basis. His advisors are saying one thing, the next minute he's Tweeting 'Free Minneapolis'.
To provide leadership in this type of crisis, you need to provide a very clear message, and you need to sound as though you take it seriously, not fuck around making stupid jokes. This is the defining event of his Presidency. It's not his fault, and he clearly didn't want it be this way, but he needed to behave like a serious person, and clearly echo the advice of the experts, rather than undermine them.
Oh yeah - holding a big rally in the middle of a pandemic is just fucking stupid.
No, the media has not been fair to him at all. But he's also made it easy for them.
I still think he'll win in November, incidentally.
@Doctor-Phibes said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
I still think he'll win in November, incidentally.
So do I.
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If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.
Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.
If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.
He would be ridiculed by all sides.
@Copper said in We've reached a new peak of new cases:
If there is one guy in this country whose health is not effected by a mask it is him.
Everyone who gets near him is tested. He is probably tested daily.
If he wore one it would be a joke, a stage prop, a lie.
He would be ridiculed by all sides.
That is the truth. Damned if he does or does not.
