Trump vs. DeSantis
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Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.
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Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.
@jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.
If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.
If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.
Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.
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Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.
@jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed
If by 'noble', you mean 'like King George III during his "eccentric" phase', then yes, you're once again spot-on.
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He's my favorite.
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As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
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As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The Brad
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@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
I agree with Trump on Disney. In the unlikely event of them ever leaving Florida, the state economy would be fucked.
Also, DeSantis really shouldn't be fighting corporations just because he doesn't agree with their politics. It's fucking dumb. He's putting political considerations ahead of the state economy. Very small-government.
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Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
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Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
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@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
I'm still not clear why anybody would have any issue with a political actor using their power within the law to do the will of the voters
I guess you've become convinced that the people who voted for DeSantis should have a principled stance against a politician doing stuff their voters want them to do. But you don't have that same stance, nor does anybody else I'm aware of.
If you'd like to attempt to zoom out and explain why, based on first principles, that is a dangerous thing, I'll certainty listen. But be forewarned, you will sound like a conservative.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
I'm still not clear why anybody would have any issue with a political actor using their power within the law to do the will of the voters
I guess you've become convinced that the people who voted for DeSantis should have a principled stance against a politician doing stuff their voters want them to do. But you don't have that same stance, nor does anybody else I'm aware of.
If you'd like to attempt to zoom out and explain why, based on first principles, that is a dangerous thing, I'll certainty listen. But be forewarned, you will sound like a conservative.
@Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
I'm still not clear why anybody would have any issue with a political actor using their power within the law to do the will of the voters
I guess you've become convinced that the people who voted for DeSantis should have a principled stance against a politician doing stuff their voters want them to do. But you don't have that same stance, nor does anybody else I'm aware of.
If you'd like to attempt to zoom out and explain why, based on first principles, that is a dangerous thing, I'll certainty listen. But be forewarned, you will sound like a conservative.
Funnily enough, I think that the free market is generally a good thing. I've worked in it all my working life. If Disney are doing stupid shit, their customers need to tell them by stopping buying their stuff.
I actually find deSantis' inteference even more distasteful than Warren's. At least she admits she's a leftist who thinks that government knows best and acts accordingly. deSantis is supposed to be a conservative favouring lack of government interference. He's a hypocrite. Maybe it's predictable that I feel this way. Almost as predictable as the fact that self-described conservatives are coming to the defence of his government over-reach. I don't actually believe that conservatives in this country are conservative any more than the liberals are liberals.
Whether I sound like a conservative is open to debate. Trump doesn't sound like a conservative, and he's leading the GOP. Ranting on about election fraud and immigrants doesn't make somebody sound conservative, it makes them sound like a drunken uncle at Thanksgiving. DeSantis doesn't act like a conservative, and he's trying to lead the GOP.
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@Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
I'm still not clear why anybody would have any issue with a political actor using their power within the law to do the will of the voters
I guess you've become convinced that the people who voted for DeSantis should have a principled stance against a politician doing stuff their voters want them to do. But you don't have that same stance, nor does anybody else I'm aware of.
If you'd like to attempt to zoom out and explain why, based on first principles, that is a dangerous thing, I'll certainty listen. But be forewarned, you will sound like a conservative.
Funnily enough, I think that the free market is generally a good thing. I've worked in it all my working life. If Disney are doing stupid shit, their customers need to tell them by stopping buying their stuff.
I actually find deSantis' inteference even more distasteful than Warren's. At least she admits she's a leftist who thinks that government knows best and acts accordingly. deSantis is supposed to be a conservative favouring lack of government interference. He's a hypocrite. Maybe it's predictable that I feel this way. Almost as predictable as the fact that self-described conservatives are coming to the defence of his government over-reach. I don't actually believe that conservatives in this country are conservative any more than the liberals are liberals.
Whether I sound like a conservative is open to debate. Trump doesn't sound like a conservative, and he's leading the GOP. Ranting on about election fraud and immigrants doesn't make somebody sound conservative, it makes them sound like a drunken uncle at Thanksgiving. DeSantis doesn't act like a conservative, and he's trying to lead the GOP.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.
Next time Elizabeth Warren or some other over-empowered government leftist eejit does some stupid shit, I'll remind you of this.
I'm still not clear why anybody would have any issue with a political actor using their power within the law to do the will of the voters
I guess you've become convinced that the people who voted for DeSantis should have a principled stance against a politician doing stuff their voters want them to do. But you don't have that same stance, nor does anybody else I'm aware of.
If you'd like to attempt to zoom out and explain why, based on first principles, that is a dangerous thing, I'll certainty listen. But be forewarned, you will sound like a conservative.
Funnily enough, I think that the free market is generally a good thing. I've worked in it all my working life. If Disney are doing stupid shit, their customers need to tell them by stopping buying their stuff.
Sure, that would be great.
I actually find deSantis' inteference even more distasteful than Warren's.
I'm not clear which actions you're comparing. What did Warren do, regardless of what she's said, that you're comparing to what DeSantis has done?
At least she admits she's a leftist who thinks that government knows best and acts accordingly. deSantis is supposed to be a conservative favouring lack of government interference. He's a hypocrite. Maybe it's predictable that I feel this way. Almost as predictable as the fact that self-described conservatives are coming to the defence of his government over-reach. I don't actually believe that conservatives in this country are conservative any more than the liberals are liberals.
So you've arrived at total ideological nihilism. Congratulations for being where you've always been. That's quite a journey.
Whether I sound like a conservative is open to debate. Trump doesn't sound like a conservative, and he's leading the GOP. Ranting on about election fraud and immigrants doesn't make somebody sound conservative, it makes them sound like a drunken uncle at Thanksgiving. DeSantis doesn't act like a conservative, and he's trying to lead the GOP.
That's just more nihilism. There is a certain framing of DeSantis that claims an overreach, but that 'overreach' is an adjustment to a sweetheart deal which would already easily be an overreach, from a conservative, small government perspective. The economically motivated love affair between Disney and Florida was never principled.
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@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.
The Brad
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There’s a few factors that keep getting skipped in this story.
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Disney would lose billions in leaving Florida. I mean hundreds of billions…Trillion +? Don’t forget that they STILL get hundreds of millions in tax incentives to be in Florida that would require a similar sweetheart deal from another warm weather state. Gulf Coast, Georgia, and the Carolinas are a no, maybe California, Nevada, or Arizona but will the AOCs allow that to happen? On top of that, the cost to build DisneyWorld today would be $4.5 Billion… That’s today… Over the actual 25 years it would actually take to complete that woud be close to $8,000,000,000.
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Now, let’s talk lost revenue… 20% of WDW revenue comes from Florida residents. Will Arizona be able to match that? Arizona has 30% the population of Florida.
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While Disney built Orlando, Orlando now feeds Disney. Universal Studios generates 75% of WDW’s total. And is building a 3rd park that will close the gap. Add on all of the other parks (Busch Gardens, LegoLand, Sea World and Orlando is split between Disney and Everything Else. If Disney leaves, you can expect somebody to purchase the developed propert to expand or build their own theme parks on the same primed property. Orlando will lose some business with Disney gone, buy it won’t be a catastrophe, while Disney would face a rivalry it’s never faced before…
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This is very easily walked back. Disney has always been very private in their political aspirations. They are getting their ass handed to them on left-leaning programming. The streaming and ticket sales are dropping. They could easily just go back to a family friendly business model and not lose…
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@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.
Perception is reality.
I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
@Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:
As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...
That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…
By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.
Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31
The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.
But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.
It's going to be interesting.
So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.
Perception is reality.
I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.
