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  • C Copper
    23 Jun 2020, 20:44

    I cleaned up the stuff on the lawn and on the shrubs.

    And cut up all the branches with the chainsaw.

    Now I need estimates from tree guys to take down the trunks that are broken off and still 10 feet in the air, and probably weigh as much as my house.

    I am almost stupid enough to try taking down these trunks myself.

    But the 50-60 foot section that fell was attached to another 50-60 foot section that is still standing. The remaining section is probably unsafe. I need a real tree guy to risk his life taking it down.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 20:07 last edited by Jolly
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    @Copper said in Broken Trees:

    I cleaned up the stuff on the lawn and on the shrubs.

    And cut up all the branches with the chainsaw.

    Now I need estimates from tree guys to take down the trunks that are broken off and still 10 feet in the air, and probably weigh as much as my house.

    I am almost stupid enough to try taking down these trunks myself.

    But the 50-60 foot section that fell was attached to another 50-60 foot section that is still standing. The remaining section is probably unsafe. I need a real tree guy to risk his life taking it down.

    Dead man off and winch it, pull it or put a come along on it. You'll need a extension ladder, a couple of chains, 100 feet of half inch cable and a tractor, truck with winch or a truck and at least a two-ton come along. Put a chain or the end of your cable with a choker about as high as you can comfortably reach with the ladder, then underbit in the direction you want to go, get the slack out of the cable and keep a little bit of pull as you cut the tree.

    Or hire someone to take it down.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Rainman
      wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 20:53 last edited by
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      Copper, I've got all that stuff.
      Swing by this afternoon.

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        brenda
        wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 22:25 last edited by
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        Copper and Mik, you have my sympathies. Life isn't fair.

        Glad you are both safe and sound.

        Copper, hire the tree removal company. It will be worth it, and much less expensive and painful than a trip to the hospital.

        Mik, I'm glad you're an excellent negotiator. That wil be an interesting wrangling of numbers.

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        • B brenda
          24 Jun 2020, 22:25

          Copper and Mik, you have my sympathies. Life isn't fair.

          Glad you are both safe and sound.

          Copper, hire the tree removal company. It will be worth it, and much less expensive and painful than a trip to the hospital.

          Mik, I'm glad you're an excellent negotiator. That wil be an interesting wrangling of numbers.

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          Mik
          wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 22:44 last edited by Mik
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          @brenda Brenda! Where ya been?

          They came up with a figure $400 Higher than I as thinking but accepted my offer. Technically I could have held them to the first estimate but I did not think that was right. Also the main worker stayed positive and resolved through this hellish effort. He’s getting married Saturday so I gave he and his bride a couple bottles of wine I thought they might like.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            24 Jun 2020, 22:44

            @brenda Brenda! Where ya been?

            They came up with a figure $400 Higher than I as thinking but accepted my offer. Technically I could have held them to the first estimate but I did not think that was right. Also the main worker stayed positive and resolved through this hellish effort. He’s getting married Saturday so I gave he and his bride a couple bottles of wine I thought they might like.

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            brenda
            wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 22:47 last edited by
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            @Mik
            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/2044/holy-cow

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              Copper
              wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 22:53 last edited by
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              1 tree guy visited, the other didn't respond

              The tree has two halves - left and right

              The right half snapped in half. He will cut that down and leave the left half for $700.

              He'll take down the left half for and additional $400

              He'll cart off all the trash for $100

              $1200 total - do it take down the whole thing. I'm not going to leave the 80+ feet tall left half.

              I warned the neighbors that there could be a lot of noise on Friday or Saturday, for $1200 I expect a lot of noise.

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                brenda
                wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 23:18 last edited by
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                Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                • B brenda
                  24 Jun 2020, 23:18

                  Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 23:20 last edited by
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                  @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                  Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

                  Good choice.

                  Stump removal?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • B brenda
                    24 Jun 2020, 23:18

                    Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 00:02 last edited by
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                    @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                    Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

                    Yeah, but what's the adventure in that?😄

                    Over the years, we've dropped two that were close to the house (I'm talking 30 feet of so). The elm wasn't huge, maybe the size of copper's sweetgum. The pin oak was about 36" on the stump.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Rainman
                      wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 01:24 last edited by
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                      $1200.00
                      Ouch.
                      And then you get the summons to appear, for taking down a tree without permission a permit.
                      Oh, wait. That's my neighborhood, I forgot.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                        Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

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                        • L Larry
                          25 Jun 2020, 01:36

                          Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 01:50 last edited by
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                          @Larry said in Broken Trees:

                          Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

                          Copper was quoted the going rate.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 01:54 last edited by
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                            Yes... I just had no idea it costs that much.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 01:59 last edited by
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                              Copper that’s about what I paid to have a tree taken down a couple years ago. I posted about it at the time.

                              They were in and out in 2 hours. It was something to see.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 02:11 last edited by
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                                For the moment the stump will remain. It is a good 25 feet from where the lawn ends and a few feet from the back fence.

                                Not wilderness exactly, but kind of a natural area. I can get away with a stump for a while it won't bother anything. There are about 50 trees back there, I'll have to take some more sooner or later, I'll save up a few stumps and do them together.

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                                • C Copper
                                  25 Jun 2020, 02:11

                                  For the moment the stump will remain. It is a good 25 feet from where the lawn ends and a few feet from the back fence.

                                  Not wilderness exactly, but kind of a natural area. I can get away with a stump for a while it won't bother anything. There are about 50 trees back there, I'll have to take some more sooner or later, I'll save up a few stumps and do them together.

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                                  Rainman
                                  wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 02:22 last edited by
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                                  @Copper
                                  Copper, if you cut low enough, you could rent one of those tree stump grinders. They work amazingly well, and work relatively quickly. Not too hard on the back, though I'd never attempt it nowadays.

                                  On our street, the developer must have gotten a real deal on Ash. Useless tree, but lined all up and down our street. Always sickly, internal rot, I had to have it removed because of fear it would fall on the house.

                                  There's also something that can be applied to a trunk, that causes it to decompose more rapidly than natural. I don't know anything about it, maybe someone here has used it. I'm suggesting stuff only if you see another price tag coming your way to get things back to normal.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 02:54 last edited by
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                                    The guys that pulled my tree down grinded the stump down too.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 02:56 last edited by
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                                      I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

                                      I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        25 Jun 2020, 02:56

                                        I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

                                        I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 03:13 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Broken Trees:

                                        I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

                                        I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

                                        Yeah, been there. Several times when I was growing up, a storm would knock over a tree or two on our property. It was just a given, the Dad hands over tools to The Son, and The Son never even figures it's within any viable parameter of acceptable complaining, so you just did it. And your older sister (in my case) never did anything outside, nothing at all, ever. Never. She got away with everything. Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

                                        Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up. Cats and Brenda probably were not spared the physical labor. Taiwan Girl, hmmm, I'd be interested to know about her intimate relationship with tree stumps.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 03:21 last edited by
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                                          Your sister sounds pretty.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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