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  • MikM Mik

    Water is flowing and the meter leak detector shows no leak. We may have dodged a bullet, but the plumbers both said this was a nightmare job.

    Now we have to negotiate what to pay him. There were two estimates. One was for three feet of splice, the second one was for 30 feet. They actually spliced about two feet, but it was much, much more difficult than it should have been. The idiots who did it originally actually created a loop in the copper line that went down 52" deep. Should have been 32".

    I'm thinking split the difference between the two estimates.

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    taiwan_girl
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    @Mik said in Broken Trees:

    Water is flowing and the meter leak detector shows no leak. We may have dodged a bullet, but the plumbers both said this was a nightmare job.

    Yay!! (not that it was a nightmare job, but that it is finished)

    Amazing what you take for granted and only realize it when you don't have it. LOL

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      I was just thinking that very thing yesterday. How nice it was to flush the toilet and take a shower.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I was just thinking that very thing yesterday. How nice it was to flush the toilet and take a shower.

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        Catseye3
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        @Mik said in Broken Trees:

        How nice it was to flush the toilet and take a shower.

        No, no, Mik. You don't flush the toilet to take a shower. The toilet is for other things having to do with disposal.

        Look for the fat spigot thing coming out of the wall. That's for the shower.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • CopperC Copper

          I cleaned up the stuff on the lawn and on the shrubs.

          And cut up all the branches with the chainsaw.

          Now I need estimates from tree guys to take down the trunks that are broken off and still 10 feet in the air, and probably weigh as much as my house.

          I am almost stupid enough to try taking down these trunks myself.

          But the 50-60 foot section that fell was attached to another 50-60 foot section that is still standing. The remaining section is probably unsafe. I need a real tree guy to risk his life taking it down.

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          #26

          @Copper said in Broken Trees:

          I cleaned up the stuff on the lawn and on the shrubs.

          And cut up all the branches with the chainsaw.

          Now I need estimates from tree guys to take down the trunks that are broken off and still 10 feet in the air, and probably weigh as much as my house.

          I am almost stupid enough to try taking down these trunks myself.

          But the 50-60 foot section that fell was attached to another 50-60 foot section that is still standing. The remaining section is probably unsafe. I need a real tree guy to risk his life taking it down.

          Dead man off and winch it, pull it or put a come along on it. You'll need a extension ladder, a couple of chains, 100 feet of half inch cable and a tractor, truck with winch or a truck and at least a two-ton come along. Put a chain or the end of your cable with a choker about as high as you can comfortably reach with the ladder, then underbit in the direction you want to go, get the slack out of the cable and keep a little bit of pull as you cut the tree.

          Or hire someone to take it down.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Rainman
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            Copper, I've got all that stuff.
            Swing by this afternoon.

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              brenda
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              #28

              Copper and Mik, you have my sympathies. Life isn't fair.

              Glad you are both safe and sound.

              Copper, hire the tree removal company. It will be worth it, and much less expensive and painful than a trip to the hospital.

              Mik, I'm glad you're an excellent negotiator. That wil be an interesting wrangling of numbers.

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              • brendaB brenda

                Copper and Mik, you have my sympathies. Life isn't fair.

                Glad you are both safe and sound.

                Copper, hire the tree removal company. It will be worth it, and much less expensive and painful than a trip to the hospital.

                Mik, I'm glad you're an excellent negotiator. That wil be an interesting wrangling of numbers.

                MikM Away
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                #29

                @brenda Brenda! Where ya been?

                They came up with a figure $400 Higher than I as thinking but accepted my offer. Technically I could have held them to the first estimate but I did not think that was right. Also the main worker stayed positive and resolved through this hellish effort. He’s getting married Saturday so I gave he and his bride a couple bottles of wine I thought they might like.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @brenda Brenda! Where ya been?

                  They came up with a figure $400 Higher than I as thinking but accepted my offer. Technically I could have held them to the first estimate but I did not think that was right. Also the main worker stayed positive and resolved through this hellish effort. He’s getting married Saturday so I gave he and his bride a couple bottles of wine I thought they might like.

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                  brenda
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                  @Mik
                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/2044/holy-cow

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                    Copper
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                    #31

                    1 tree guy visited, the other didn't respond

                    The tree has two halves - left and right

                    The right half snapped in half. He will cut that down and leave the left half for $700.

                    He'll take down the left half for and additional $400

                    He'll cart off all the trash for $100

                    $1200 total - do it take down the whole thing. I'm not going to leave the 80+ feet tall left half.

                    I warned the neighbors that there could be a lot of noise on Friday or Saturday, for $1200 I expect a lot of noise.

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                      Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                      • brendaB brenda

                        Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                        George K
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                        @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                        Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

                        Good choice.

                        Stump removal?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • brendaB brenda

                          Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

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                          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                          Good call, Copper. There are some things best left to the professionals with the expensive equipment and insurance.

                          Yeah, but what's the adventure in that?😄

                          Over the years, we've dropped two that were close to the house (I'm talking 30 feet of so). The elm wasn't huge, maybe the size of copper's sweetgum. The pin oak was about 36" on the stump.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Rainman
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                            $1200.00
                            Ouch.
                            And then you get the summons to appear, for taking down a tree without permission a permit.
                            Oh, wait. That's my neighborhood, I forgot.

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                              Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

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                                @Larry said in Broken Trees:

                                Geez.. I think I'll go into the tree removal bidness...

                                Copper was quoted the going rate.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Yes... I just had no idea it costs that much.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Copper that’s about what I paid to have a tree taken down a couple years ago. I posted about it at the time.

                                    They were in and out in 2 hours. It was something to see.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      For the moment the stump will remain. It is a good 25 feet from where the lawn ends and a few feet from the back fence.

                                      Not wilderness exactly, but kind of a natural area. I can get away with a stump for a while it won't bother anything. There are about 50 trees back there, I'll have to take some more sooner or later, I'll save up a few stumps and do them together.

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        For the moment the stump will remain. It is a good 25 feet from where the lawn ends and a few feet from the back fence.

                                        Not wilderness exactly, but kind of a natural area. I can get away with a stump for a while it won't bother anything. There are about 50 trees back there, I'll have to take some more sooner or later, I'll save up a few stumps and do them together.

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                                        @Copper
                                        Copper, if you cut low enough, you could rent one of those tree stump grinders. They work amazingly well, and work relatively quickly. Not too hard on the back, though I'd never attempt it nowadays.

                                        On our street, the developer must have gotten a real deal on Ash. Useless tree, but lined all up and down our street. Always sickly, internal rot, I had to have it removed because of fear it would fall on the house.

                                        There's also something that can be applied to a trunk, that causes it to decompose more rapidly than natural. I don't know anything about it, maybe someone here has used it. I'm suggesting stuff only if you see another price tag coming your way to get things back to normal.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #42

                                          The guys that pulled my tree down grinded the stump down too.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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