Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

… But the rest of this is just an obscene power grab. Warner’s proven himself unfit for office with this bill, …

Why only Warner? You are going to let all the cosponsors off the hook?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/cosponsors?s=1&r=15

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

[LuFins Dad]

@Axtremus said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

… But the rest of this is just an obscene power grab. Warner’s proven himself unfit for office with this bill, …

Why only Warner? You are going to let all the cosponsors off the hook?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/cosponsors?s=1&r=15

I personally don’t think anybody supporting this bill to be fit, but Warner is the head of this particular beast,

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

98% of cars drive on the I-95. Except for those that don't live anywhere near it.

I wish I didn't, as it happens.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

[89th]

Yeah sorry it's 70%, allegedly. And that video call between Melbourne and Tanzania? Who knows... if the technology used is leveraging an AWS CloudFront Edge location, partnered network, and/or somehow has data pulled into the AWS global ecosystem for redundancy or latency or blah blah blah...I could see why the data might be routed (even if as a backup) through the AWS East region (Northern Virginia) at some point.

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

That's not what you said. It's right up there a few lines up, did you forget saying it?

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Are you going to admit this was an over-estimation or are we still going to play games?

[Aqua Letifer]

@89th said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

Yeah sorry it's 70%, allegedly. And that video call between Melbourne and Tanzania? Who knows... if the technology used is leveraging an AWS CloudFront Edge location, partnered network, and/or somehow has data pulled into the AWS global ecosystem for redundancy or latency or blah blah blah...I could see why the data might be routed (even if as a backup) through the AWS East region (Northern Virginia) at some point.

I've made video calls to Melbourne from Sydney, and to Maryland from Sydney.

I guarantee you it's different.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

That's not what you said. It's right up there a few lines up, did you forget saying it?

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Are you going to admit this was an over-estimation or are we still going to play games?

I also said earlier that I had misspoke and meant US web traffic. Are we just going to pick and choose what responses were given?

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

That's not what you said. It's right up there a few lines up, did you forget saying it?

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Are you going to admit this was an over-estimation or are we still going to play games?

I also said earlier that I had misspoke and meant US web traffic. Are we just going to pick and choose what responses were given?

I'm not arguing with you that a shitload of internet traffic goes through Loudoun. I'm well aware of why that is. I only had issue with "every packet of information" which is clearly not true.

[89th]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

That's not what you said. It's right up there a few lines up, did you forget saying it?

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Are you going to admit this was an over-estimation or are we still going to play games?

I also said earlier that I had misspoke and meant US web traffic. Are we just going to pick and choose what responses were given?

I'm not arguing with you that a shitload of internet traffic goes through Loudoun. I'm well aware of why that is. I only had issue with "every packet of information" which is clearly not true.

Personally I'm surprised the packets of information can even fit in the series of tubes, all of which are planted under the Wegman's in Loudon County.

[Aqua Letifer]

@89th said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

@jon-nyc said in Can we discuss the Tik Tok Bill?:

The bill itself might suck, I’ve not yet looked into it.

But of course we should ban TikTok unless and until China divests of it fully.

Here’s the case for it.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-of-course-we-should-ban-tiktok

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Yes, because when you're on a video chat between Melbourne and Tasmania, obviously it has to be run through America Online in Ashburn first.

I meant in the US, but as 89th points out, quite a bit of the World Wide Web goes through loudoun.

Well, sure, it's the internet's I-95. But not for other countries who are accessing other servers.

https://digitaltech.com/data-center-alley-why-70-of-internet-traffic-flows-through-ashburn-virginia/

70% of “The World’s” internet traffic. I’m pretty sure the world includes other countries.

That's not what you said. It's right up there a few lines up, did you forget saying it?

they say that every packet of information on the internet goes through servers in Loudoun County

Are you going to admit this was an over-estimation or are we still going to play games?

I also said earlier that I had misspoke and meant US web traffic. Are we just going to pick and choose what responses were given?

I'm not arguing with you that a shitload of internet traffic goes through Loudoun. I'm well aware of why that is. I only had issue with "every packet of information" which is clearly not true.

Personally I'm surprised the packets of information can even fit in the series of tubes, all of which are planted under the Wegman's in Loudon County.

I, just the other day, got packet was sent by the Wegman's at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday!

[George K]

Coaching...

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TikTok has enlisted three heavyweights from American politics and business to advise it behind the scenes as the social-media app tries to convince U.S. authorities that it isn’t beholden to the Chinese government.

David Plouffe and Jim Messina, veterans of Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns, and Zenia Mucha, the former longtime communications chief of Walt Disney Co., DIS 1.27%increase; green up pointing triangle are advising TikTok in its fight against efforts to ban it in the U.S, according to people familiar with their roles.

All three helped coach TikTok Chief Executive Shou Zi Chew for more than a month ahead of what turned out to be a contentious U.S. House hearing last week, the people said.

In hiring the trio of U.S. advisers, TikTok, which is owned by Beijing-based ByteDance Ltd., is turning to people who made their name selling the world some of the most prominent American brands: Barack Obama and Disney. They also have experience straddling business and politics. Mr. Plouffe worked at Uber Technologies Inc. UBER 1.04%increase; green up pointing triangle after the White House, and Ms. Mucha advised Republican politicians in New York for years before her two-decade career at the entertainment giant.

A spokeswoman for TikTok said the company sought a diversity of views when it approached something of the magnitude of the congressional hearing. “That’s why we brought in additional folks,” she said.